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The easiest thing you can do is go to BIOS, find RAM settings and change freq from 533 to 667 or from 667 to 800. If you're already at max, you can lower the timings- use CPUz to find out which
(if your RAM is currently reported at ~670 in CPUz after the CPU OC, then in BIOS it's set to 533. Otherwise if it's running ~700+, it's already OCd )

Note, don't OC the DDR2 too high- it runs at higher voltage than DDR3 and will overheat
The package says:

667mhz ram, so what would be a safe speed to set it at?
    
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Ok i have looked in the bios and it has timings but for mem OC when i set it to manual from auto it then says something like
233
333
400
533

is that how much it goes up by or is that what it is set at? and idk if those are the exact numbers i just know they are close to what it says from memory.

Will get cpuz iv got gpuz already so i will check that out.
Those are the settings for DDR2, sorry I messed the prev post with DDR3 freqs.
Those settings will be your RAM freq for SDR @stock CPU.
MEANING: DDR setting of 333 = 667Mhz actual @200 ref clock.
Since you've OCd, DDR setting of 333 = ~700 actual with your OC
If BIOS is set to Auto it might lower it to 233, resulting in ~530 Mhz after the OC, which is lower than your RAM can go and should try increasing it back to 333 (~700)

An important note- If running DDR setting 333 with CPU OC and actual DDR freq of 750 or smth, your BIOS will still apply the timings for 667Mhz! Meaning you'll be running higher freq with lower timings, which can cause instability.
Use CPUz SPD section as a guide, set the Actual freq about your certified freq (667) and try to manually lower the timings as low as they go stable
Edited by ronnin426850 - 12/19/10 at 9:56am
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Those are the settings for DDR2, sorry I messed the prev post with DDR3 freqs.
Those settings will nbe your RAM freq for SDR @stock CPU.
MEANING: DDR setting of 333 = 667Mhz actual @200 ref clock.
Since you've OCd, DDR setting of 333 = ~700 actual with your OC
So when it says 333 it is actually 667?
So then if i increase it to 400 what would it run at 8--?
Edited by Customx3 - 12/19/10 at 10:31am
    
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So when it says 33 it is actually 667?
So then if i increase it to 400 what would it run at 8--?
Yes This thread goes very fast and we could have skipped some important points

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Those are the settings for DDR2, sorry I messed the prev post with DDR3 freqs.
Those settings will be your RAM freq for SDR @stock CPU.
MEANING: DDR setting of 333 = 667Mhz actual @200 ref clock.
Since you've OCd, DDR setting of 333 = ~700 actual with your OC
If BIOS is set to Auto it might lower it to 233, resulting in ~530 Mhz after the OC, which is lower than your RAM can go and should try increasing it back to 333 (~700)

An important note- If running DDR setting 333 with CPU OC and actual DDR freq of 750 or smth, your BIOS will still apply the timings for 667Mhz! Meaning you'll be running higher freq with lower timings, which can cause instability.
Use CPUz SPD section as a guide, set the Actual freq about your certified freq (667) and try to manually lower the timings as low as they go stable
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So how do i test ram stability just use p95 custom test with a ton of ram used?

I just got done dowloading cpuz and will see if i can figure it out.

idk how to use it though.

What could we have missed?
    
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So how do i test ram stability just use p95 custom test with a ton of ram used?

I just got done dowloading cpuz and will see if i can figure it out.

idk how to use it though.

What could we have missed?
Well, I'm a bit slow to react on the change from DDR3 to DDR2.. Yes, um, CPUz has 2 tabs for memory- Memory and SPD. Memory shows your current actual freq and timings. SPD shows certified freqs and timings. So, Using the setting from BIOS, get your actual freq to the certified one (667) or at least close (650-690). Then check it up in the SPD section. I'd say something like |333 / 5-5-5-17-15| Or similar, I just made those up. Then, try to get your current timings to match the timings for the slower than current setting. For example |250 / 4-4-4-15-13|. Get those, test for stability. Prime should do, I use Orthos however, easier to get around and.. yes, you should be fine from there on
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Sorry for double post. There are a few notes:

1. BIOS DDR settings are for Single DR, meaning half the actual freq (at stock)
2. BIOS DDR settings are equal to half the resulting DDR freq only at stock CPU freq (ref clock = 200)
3. CPUz shows you half the actual freq.
4. BIOS will run your RAM at the certified timings for the selected setting, NOT for the resulting actual freq
5. DDR2 overheats!
6. Most DIMMS can do timings at least -1 of their certified for a freq, stable
7. Lowering timings can't damage the memory
8. BSOD = bad memory OC
Edited by ronnin426850 - 12/19/10 at 10:28am
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Haha idk how to do any of that (yet)

Here is a pic of a bunch of different tabs of cpu-z mem sections. now tell me based on what you see for me to do... if u can.


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Haha idk how to do any of that (yet)

Here is a pic of a bunch of different tabs of cpu-z mem sections. now tell me based on what you see for me to do... if u can.


Attachment 185682
Hmm, let's take all that to PM, shall we?

EDIT: Actually, don't change anyhting and test for stability right now. YOu have a monster mem OC currently Hope it's stable
Edited by ronnin426850 - 12/19/10 at 10:26am
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Hmm, let's take all that to PM, shall we?

EDIT: Actually, don't change anyhting and test for stability right now. YOu have a monster mem OC currently Hope it's stable
Bump, not sure you saw the Edit and write back with the results
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