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I'm currently using a Xigmatek 1283 with a bolt thru kit. Stock fan was upgraded to this Rosewill...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835200028

I actually only bought it because it was half that price on sale and I wanted the fan controller. Turns out it's a very nice fan. It moves a tiny bit more air than my Xigmatek XLF-F1253 case fans with a tiny bit more noise.

The CPU is an X4 970 @ 1.4v, 3.7GHz. Idle 25C, Load running in place FFT in prime95 for 10 minutes gets 45C with an ambient room temp of 67-67.5F.

The case is the NZXT Beta Evo. XLF-F1253 120mm for front, side and the stock case fan at the top for intake. XLF-F1453 140mm for top and XLF-F1253 120mm at the rear for exhaust.

It's come down to three coolers all in the $35-40 range. The Scythe Yasya, Mugen 2 and the Zalman CNPS10X Performa. I'm not a fan of the Yasys'a horizontal orientation on an AM3 system but other than that I have no problems with it. I honestly haven't seen too much about it at all.

The Performa's fan is loud at full speed so I might change it to run another single fan or dual fans or just run it at a lower speed. I'm not sure how well it takes to dual fans yet. My 1283 only drops 2C with dual fans. A bit more info on this cooler out there in forums vs the Yasya.

The Mugen 2 will be getting a second Slip Stream or two new fans... but it will be running two fans. Tons of info about it in forums but nothing really directly relating user experience with it and one of the other two.

So is there any reason to pick one cooler over the other? Does anyone have experience with more than one of these?
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imo, its worth the extra 50 to just go on up to the high end air coolers like an h50, silver arrow, or a dh14. i got my 970 to 4.0 easy on an h50 with a slipstream and it folds 24-7 and never gets above 45.
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Cooling with the Mugen 2 by all the reviews is surprisingly effective. I'm running with one now. Because my As.s mb will not support voltage control of fans I am stuck with pwm fans. I installed a TY-140 as pull fan, with the Slip Stream medium PWM as push:



You will note the absence of a rear grill and rear exhaust fan. The push/pull heatsink configuration exhausts the case for me. See item 2. in my sig for how effective this can be.

Unfortunately the Beta Evo cpu window in the mb tray does not fully expose the heatsink bracket. Unless you have a friend to help you I'd recommend removing the mb from your case to install the heatsink.

It's a royal pain to install, but this heatsink is running within a couple of degrees of my D14, and quietly. For $40 shipped, it's a bargain.

Note: if you want to install a second fan you will need a second set of clips.
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I think I'm going Mugen 2. I saw the Benchmarkreview article with the Performa/Mugen 2 with stock fans...

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.ph...&limitstart=17

And a high output fan...

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.ph...&limitstart=18

But I didn't see this one until last night which answers the dual fan question for me about the Zalman...

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coo...apor120_6.html

It seems as great as the Zalman is, the Mugen 2 just handles lower noise better.
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So as I was clicking my way to the Mugen 2 I found the Zalman for $35 shipped and grabbed it. My cooler was the original S1283 with the Rosewill fan listed above. I was using nafljhy's bolt-thru kit for the above temps. The details remain the same as above except I added a second Rosewill fan. I tested the cooler at 3.7GHz and 4.0GHz and it was 3c cooler and 2C cooler respectively.... which is 1C cooler vs what i'd get if I was running dual Rosewill's on the Xiggy.

I'm going to play around with fans both on the cooler and in the case to see what happens. As for installation and such, the Zalman instructions are wonderful. The mounting system is very simple to use and I had it mounted in no time at all with the board still in the case. The only problem I ran into was with the fan clips which clip to the inside fan holes. I ended up removing the top case fans to have enough space to work... I'll be using the zip ties for my fan testing.

EDIT .......

I can't get much more out of this cooler it seems.

Rosewill push/pull no rear case fan -1C
Rosewill Push only no change

I mounted the stock Zalman fan and at full speed it matched the Rosewill's in push pull. The stock fan is much easier to mount with the fan clips and is less "whiny" than the Rosewill. You can hear it but it's only a hum. I have one more fan I'm going to try later but I don't expect things will change much. I ordered a couple D12SH YL's that I'll test when they arrive but I think Zalman has included the best fan in the box for this cooler already.

I do like this cooler but I think a Mugen 2 is in my future.

EDIT 2...

So I've remounted it, tried changing orientation, added more pressure to the mounting system and tried a super high speed fan but none of it made any significant difference. I did however test my "old" S1283 with it's original mounting system and the temps climbed by 8C under load compared to nafljhy's bolt thru kit. I remounted the dual Rosewill fans but I have them attached to a fan controller. Dual fans in quiet mode have the same performance as the stock fan in noisy mode.
Edited by Maranello - 1/1/11 at 7:42am
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