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As our current family laptop is getting old, we are purchasing a new one. Do you guys know any laptops that fit my below specifications? I looked in many companies (hp, Dell, and Sony) and did not find the laptop I was looking for. Thanks!

-Windows 7 (obviously) Home Premium
-i7 quad core
-Ability for 6 GB+ of RAM
-ALUMINUM CASE!!!
-Screen can be any size
-Under $1,500
OK. For starters why do you
A) need an i7?
B) need 6GB+? (Even with windows and it's horrible RAM gobbling that's a bit much)
C) Aluminum case? If you're worried about the insides then the case isn't the only thing to worry about.

Outside of the price I'd say you were asking for a Mac. In any case I've been unable to find anything that fits within that price range. What exactly does your family do with this laptop?
     
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Macbook pro is unibody while envy is not. If possible, try testing them yourself and IMO they differ a lot.
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for 1500 buy a sager notebook, i would say the NP8690. You could customise it with an i7 740QM and a gtx 460m which is plenty for gaming.
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I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Sandy Bridge. Better performance and efficiency, newer graphics chips, and maybe some decent designs to go along with it. That's what I'm waiting for.
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Anyone really dissected the MBP's chasis? It's basically the same design used in many other higher end laptops except "reversed".

Other laptops use base assemblies to hold everything the MBP just uses the top assembly to hold everything. All you are getting in reality is slightly more metal on the sides (which leads to nothing in terms of integrity). In reality it's nothing amazing or new. The only thing they did was use aluminum for the chassis which is a poor choice of material since it's expensive, and is a tough but malleable. (hard metals=chip, tough metals=bend)

Here is the MBP's case, remove the KB/Mouse pad an that leaves you with two big holes:


@OP

You've got the Dell Precision line up (M6***), HP's workstation Elitebooks, Thinkpad's while plastic use very good quality plastic and a metal roll cage (I would take a Thinkpad over a MBP any day for durable computing). Personally I'd go for an Elitebook or Thinkpad for the IPS options (if they are still being offered). These are all in the $1,500-$5,000 segment ($5,000 when talking high specs, however most of these setups can be marked down drastically if you make a phone call)

For cheaper: There's Dell's Latitude E6*** series, HP's Elitebook P series, and Thinkpads "T" non workstations. All are in the over $1,000 segment.
You also have the HP Envy's (DO NOT GET THE 1st GEN), Sony Z series (keep a close eye on fan issues, otherwise quality isn't bad at all just the price is not coinciding with quality of hardware/build quality). These are all in the $800+ range (typically the $800-$1,800~)

There are tons of other notebooks which use inner metal/outer plastics which are quite durable as well as being much cheaper then the above listed options.
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I also read somewhere that the mac case was bad since it transfered the full force of an impact onto the hard drive. Is that correct?

Second Atheist's opinion though.
     
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I also read somewhere that the mac case was bad since it transfered the full force of an impact onto the hard drive. Is that correct?

Second Atheist's opinion though.
If I recall correctly the only shock absorber protecting the hard drive are the screws. But yes overall not very decent protection, and to be fair not many laptops do have decent shock protection for the hard drive (both high/low end).

My main concern is the material.
Overall the aluminum used on the MBP is not adequate, I've seen MBP's get dented or dinged over small 1-3 feet fall. Some completely bend corners over a 4 foot drop. And of course the LCD is hardly protected at all.
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post #18 of 33
Well I think its just the feel of it. I personally only buy aluminum notebooks now because they feel sturdy and strong vs plastic. I rather take some dents than cracks and crap breaking off.
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Anyone really dissected the MBP's chasis? It's basically the same design used in many other higher end laptops except "reversed".

Other laptops use base assemblies to hold everything the MBP just uses the top assembly to hold everything. All you are getting in reality is slightly more metal on the sides (which leads to nothing in terms of integrity). In reality it's nothing amazing or new. The only thing they did was use aluminum for the chassis which is a poor choice of material since it's expensive, and is a tough but malleable. (hard metals=chip, tough metals=bend)

Here is the MBP's case, remove the KB/Mouse pad an that leaves you with two big holes:


@OP

You've got the Dell Precision line up (M6***), HP's workstation Elitebooks, Thinkpad's while plastic use very good quality plastic and a metal roll cage (I would take a Thinkpad over a MBP any day for durable computing). Personally I'd go for an Elitebook or Thinkpad for the IPS options (if they are still being offered). These are all in the $1,500-$5,000 segment ($5,000 when talking high specs, however most of these setups can be marked down drastically if you make a phone call)

For cheaper: There's Dell's Latitude E6*** series, HP's Elitebook P series, and Thinkpads "T" non workstations. All are in the over $1,000 segment.
You also have the HP Envy's (DO NOT GET THE 1st GEN), Sony Z series (keep a close eye on fan issues, otherwise quality isn't bad at all just the price is not coinciding with quality of hardware/build quality). These are all in the $800+ range (typically the $800-$1,800~)

There are tons of other notebooks which use inner metal/outer plastics which are quite durable as well as being much cheaper then the above listed options.

Actually it is unibody and more then just the "sides"

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Well I think its just the feel of it. I personally only buy aluminum notebooks now because they feel sturdy and strong vs plastic. I rather take some dents than cracks and crap breaking off.
I personally prefer Thinkpad's durable plastic/metal roll cage (legendary durability) over an aluminum body (MBP or Envy). Worst case scenario happens I can replace any plastic part for cheap (not that they break easily, because they don't due to their shock absorption. You can't say the same with the MBP.

Many other companies use pretty durable plastics as well, such as Dell D6*0 series, those things could take serious punishment.
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