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You dont.. Your eyes need 24fps to get the feeling of continuous motion.. BUT.. most games never offer stable fps rates.. Technically speaking a game that offers a stable 24fps rate is better than one that offers 100fps but has a min fps of 10 or so.. But different scenes have different compositions.. So its better if u have a system which gives out higher fps cos the minimum fps will be low.. Min fps is an overlooked concept imo..
    
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60FPS in a fast paced game like call of duty is ESSENTIAL. 30FPS in a game like GTA4, CRYSIS, etc, is bearable.
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Im usually only able to barely pull 30 FPS, so its totally playable at that rate to me.
(I have a very nice monitor at 85Hz)
    
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Originally Posted by BallaTheFeared View Post

I viewed this website http://eapdesign.vndv.com/fps/ and I don't know what it means, I see a difference, but often I can't really track it at higher fps anyways, and if I add a fake motion blur I can't really see much of the blur at all it's just so dang fast.

So do I really need 60 fps in games?
I could tell a difference with every speed, and then I could even tell a difference when you click the "faster" button. I could tell the difference between all speeds regardless of black on white, white on black, or gray on gray.

Framerate, is very subjective. Some people have better, more acute eyesight than others.
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Play on an old CRT with at least 75 Hz and you'll wish your LCD produced more then 60 Hz.
And this is exactly the reason I am getting rid of this Asus monitor for an Old Sony CRT with 120Hz refresh rate.
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"Film" is shot using 24fps. When said film is played back, each frame is displayed 2-3 times, delivering an effective 48-72fps.
Bingo.


Now framerate, is also dependent on the game you're playing. As was mentioned before, games like Crysis and Metro 2033 are definitely playable at 30 FPS. Will you notice a difference between 30 and 50? You bet.
However, other games, such as CSS or even TF2, you'll think you're getting video lag at anything below 60 FPS. Personally, I can tell the difference between 200 FPS and 100 FPS. And that's when I start to think I'm getting lag.
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And this is exactly the reason I am getting rid of this Asus monitor for an Old Sony CRT with 120Hz refresh rate.
Same reason why I can't get rid of my IBM CRT. Any face pace FPS is unbearable on my LCDs.

If only my glass desk could hold this beast.. Instead I have to use my old desk that I got 12 years ago.
post #26 of 52
I guess it really comes down to personal preference. Some people are adamant they can tell the difference between 50 and 150 FPS (although how they do this unless they've got a 150Hz display is another matter). Some people are happy with 40 FPS. Input lag is a separate matter. With no input lag 30+ is considered "playable" by game developers. Minimum frame rate is also important and consistency.
Edited by Ding Chavez - 12/20/10 at 12:18am
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Call me an idiot but I just put 2 and 2 together the other day and realised my screen is 60Hz which means it's only capable of refreshing 60 times a second thus it can display a maximum of 60 FPS. A 120Hz screen 120 FPS. There are lots of morons who spend thousands on SLI or Crossfire setups even though they've only got 60Hz screens!

One last point TV and movies run at 24, 25 and 30 FPS and you don't think they look like a slide show do you.
i have a 60hz monitor/hdtv and the reason i have SLI is so that i can get a smooth 60hz refresh rate. for me it's the best way and only way i game. i feel the need to explain to some how vsync works. for the guy above, they can get more than 60fps it just causes the screen to tear. because you said it-it can only handle upto 60. how you lock it at the refresh rate is with vsync. now there is a catch. when you enable vsync there is a performace hit. so thats why me and others need powerfull systems so that we can enable ALLL the EYECANDY AAANNNND MAINTAIN 60HZ. it's not always easy, some games have alot of eyecandy hence the money you so thought people were wasting actually is for a reason you were ignorant to. in addition there are some games that you can play without vsync and the tears are minimul. wow comes to mind, for some reason the tears are not so bad without vsync, some though are just tooo nasty for my tastes

inaddition I for one can tell the differnce even when it dips to 50 or so (in a pc game). i prefer SMOOOTH FLUIIIID gaming with no tears . if you don't or haven't experienced that with everything maxed your missing out. some games like metro, or crysis, or deadspace, i don't enable vsync in game cause they are set to 24fps (probably because they were ported with the exeption of crysis), instead i set it in control panel and i get a smoother gameplay that way. because i can't stand 24fps either. on console or for tv and movies it's not even the smallest of issues but for games it seems as if there is a lag of some sort can't stand it.

so in conclusion a great big hell yes from me. call me picky or whatever, I NEED to play with a constant refresh rate no matter whats going on in game for me to be fully immersed. if not i remember im just playing a computer game.

suspended disbelief. look it up, this is why I also built a hometheater..lol thats a different forum tho
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post #28 of 52
You're right with vsync disabled the 'tearing' effect can be annoying. The point I was trying to make is that frame rate is limited to the refresh rate of your display. A consistent 60 FPS is highly desirable.
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I believe it depends on the game engine. Most games are fine at 30 FPS, but others, you can notice even a bit of choppiness. I prefer 40+ in any game, it's good enough, but when it's a solid 60, it's like a hot knife through butter.
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post #30 of 52
yup it is desireable but sometimes hard as hell. the games are getting nicer and nicer (better quality of visual and sound effects) and it takes a toll on your hardware.

ride on tho and happy gaming
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