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Why would you buy from a company that treats you like criminals? Copyright protection only hurts legitimate customers. When has it ever stopped thieves?
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Originally Posted by EvanPitts View Post
Maybe someone sued them because there was no "advantage" that was "genuine"???

Besides, I think Office 2010 has tanked because there are basically zero corporates using it - they are either still on 2003 or working on migrating to 2007. Plus, there is little reason to change, since MS refuses to deprecate DOCX - which becomes a huge nightmare in organizations because too many people can't figure out how to Save As and put it in a proper, and compatible, DOC format...
i've noticed this as well... .doc still is the basic format i save to when giving to other people because they all use office 2003 or don't know how to save as... and i'm not the only one.

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Why would you buy from a company that treats you like criminals? Copyright protection only hurts legitimate customers. When has it ever stopped thieves?
and yet you're using Windows...
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Why would you buy from a company that treats you like criminals? Copyright protection only hurts legitimate customers. When has it ever stopped thieves?
Never.

OGA is so simple to kill lol. I wrote a script that just resets the grace period every reboot.. and I don't have great programming knowledge... They're probably beefing it up.
    
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and yet you're using Windows...
I said who would "buy". (hint, hint) My friend gave it to me. My friend from the internet who sent it over tor. Not much different than mixtapes recorded from the radio.

I actually use Unbuntu and OSX 95% of the time. I'm only forced to use Micro$oft for DirectX games.
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Next week's headline:

"OGA2 released! Much better!"
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Next week's headline:

"OGA2 released! Much better!"
Haha that or some other way to tell. Maybe MS update will check?
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omg, lets hope, i can't count how many times i've had legit keys and it won't allow my to validate them, even by phone. lets just hope the next thing they come out with will work better.
And just how many legit keys have you had not activate by phone? I've activated lots of them by phone and haven't had a problem yet.
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Haha that or some other way to tell. Maybe MS update will check?
Maybe... after all one of the Windows updates posted earlier in this thread is a phone-home service.
    
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I thought this was the first step into Cloud as well.
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Honestly, most corps are just moving to 2007, but some are skipping it and moving to 2010. The Docx forat is not the problem, Installing a simple converter to Office Xp or 2003 allows access to the new formats.
DOCX is certainly a major problem for big corporations. Converters do not cut it, expecially when they would need to be operated by IT. DOCX is not accepted in Europe, so importer/exporters can't use it. Firms (like law offices) with tens or hundreds of thousands of documents can't use it, because converting these files is a very big budgetary deal. There are utilities that purport to automate these tasks, but someone would still be required to review each and every document, and make corrections, etc.

Some small mom & pop would probably have no problem, but once a place has thousands of workers, it becomes a living nightmare. This, especially when DOCX has very real problems with correct rendering, has not been adopted across the board, may be banned by corporate edicts, etc. There is no reason for MS to even have bothered with DOCX - it is a poo format that they made to allow documents to be turned into "web pages" - which is not the goal of most business users. Most business users want to create printer compatible output, and have to do that while following corporate policies - and since DOCX fails to format correctly, and MS admits to this fact that the files may not render in the same manner even on equally prepared workstations - it's a bust.

Not to mention the fact that something like Office 2010 really brings nothing to the table. Corporates have to look as factors, like the cost of retraining an entire staff, the cost of document conversions, the cost of a spike in IT service requests, etc. It's not like the home user, where this stuff is easy-peasy; this is a nightmare multipled by thousands in large firms. Not to mention the large costs of converting, in the light of the lack of any real advantages in converting.

This is like XP - the conversion to XP is disruptive enough; and in my case, where they are already XP, they are talking going to Win7, which will really suck up a huge amount of effort in testing software, retraining, etc...
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