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Originally Posted by EvoBeardy;11719921 
Nah, those things you circled are the chokes.
To the left of them, under the long blue heatsink are the transistors, or MOSFET's.

If you've got a heatsink on them, you should be fine in general, but it depends on the quality of MOSFET's used by the motherboard manufacturer.
X6 CPU's in particular when OC'd put alot of strain on the MOSFET's, you may have heard about alot of MSI 790FX-GD70 and 890FX-GD70 Motherboards toasting, this was due to people pushing their X6's for a great OC, and even though the MOSFET's had a heatsink on them, the quality of them wasn't enough to hold the power and heat.

AFAIK, that Asus Mobo is very good, and hasn't had any problems with X6's, I'm curious though, what kinda temps were you getting when stress-testing the OC? And at what Voltages?
HardWare Monitor, and CPU-Z screenies when running the tests and getting the CPU to throttle.

I've seen a few of the M-ATX versions of that board to do a similar thing, but they lacked MOSFET cooling, so people put those heatsinks mentioned on them, aswell as a fan directed in that area.

You could also see if there's a BIOS update for that Mobo, that raised the throttle temperature, if it was ever a problem.
But checking the Temps and Voltages would be a first for sure. smile.gif

I haven't manually changed much, only my CPU voltage. (1.45v) and multiplier (x20).

I also turned off Cool n' Quiet, and C1E Support.

I left all other voltages such as NB and such on Auto. (Not sure what to put them at and I never bothered researching yet.)

Here's some photos.

When it dips:
dip.png

When it peaks:
highj.png




I noticed that my voltage shoots up to 1.53v for the CPU's vCore, even though I have it manually set to 1.45v in the bios. What's up with that! confused.gif

Also, if anyone knows why it does that to my taskbar icons usually after I change bios settings or something, please tell me. It's only temporary, but it's weird. (Blank icons by clock.)
post #12 of 39
I had this issue with mine as well. Mine was a BIOS issue with my mobo, not sure if it affects your either.

I never found a way to solve the problem, other than not bumping the OC up so high.
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Yeah I noticed that spike aswell, is Load Line Calibration (LLC) in the BIOS settings enabled?
It's function is to provide extra voltage when the CPU requires it, in higher OC's it can be known to cross the preferred line.

If you disable it, I believe you'll suffer from a little Vdroop, but it'll stay set where you leave it at least.

Give that a try, also what kinda cooler is on that?

Otherwise a BIOS update might be in order.
 
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Yeah I noticed that spike aswell, is Load Line Calibration (LLC) in the BIOS settings enabled?
It's function is to provide extra voltage when the CPU requires it, in higher OC's it can be known to cross the preferred line.

If you disable it, I believe you'll suffer from a little Vdroop, but it'll stay set where you leave it at least.

Give that a try, also what kinda cooler is on that?

Otherwise a BIOS update might be in order.
The H50. It's quite chilly in my room also. ~65F.

BTW I saw an option like that in the BIOS, it was set to AUTO, I'll go disable it and see what happens.

EDIT: Turned them off, and I thought you said I'd suffer from a "little" Vdroop. I set it to 1.475, and I get 1.41v.

It also drops the multiplier still, so that isn't fixed.
Edited by Khaotik55 - 12/20/10 at 6:36pm
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Okay, sounds like the Power States are being triggered when hitting 55c by the thermal control.

First thing you can do is to go into the Power Options in Windows and make sure it's set to high performance and set the display to stay on.

If that fails you can download PhenomMsrTweaker and set the P-state's to x20 on the multi and the volts you're running at, to prevent it from doing that.

Sorry about the Vdroop.

EDIT:- I'd also recommend getting some Gentle-Typhoons for a Push/Pull to lower those temps a tad on that H50, or an Ultra Kaze at least.
There are a few ways you can mount the H50 aswell, people get better temps by trying the different methods.
One of these is to have the air being pulled in through the rad and venting into the case, so it's not just pushing around warm case air. But it depends on the case ultimately, the ambient temps in the room and the likes.
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post #16 of 39
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Okay, sounds like the Power States are being triggered when hitting 55c by the thermal control.

First thing you can do is to go into the Power Options in Windows and make sure it's set to high performance and set the display to stay on.

If that fails you can download PhenomMsrTweaker and set the P-state's to x20 on the multi and the volts you're running at, to prevent it from doing that.

Sorry about the Vdroop.

EDIT:- I'd also recommend getting some Gentle-Typhoons for a Push/Pull to lower those temps a tad on that H50, or an Ultra Kaze at least.
There are a few ways you can mount the H50 aswell, people get better temps by trying the different methods.
One of these is to have the air being pulled in through the rad and venting into the case, so it's not just pushing around warm case air. But it depends on the case ultimately, the ambient temps in the room and the likes.
Roger that, also I have the rad pulling in cold air and exhausting hot air back into the case, which is immediately being pulled right back out by my two top exhaust fans.

However the radiator fan is slightly weak.
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Roger that, also I have the rad pulling in cold air and exhausting hot air back into the case, which is immediately being pulled right back out by my two top exhaust fans.

However the radiator fan is slightly weak.
Ah cool, the only downside about that with a single fan setup, is that the push force of a fan is always greater than the pulling.
What about changing the top-rear fan to pull air in downwards, and temporarily flipping the fan back around to push back through the rad and out?

That might improve the temps some, at least until a better fan can be purchased and a better arrangement like:-

l ----->
l[fan][rad] --->airflow into case
l------>

Or even a Drive Bay mount or something can be done.

Staying under that 55c P-State would be better in the longrun, but it won't hurt using that program to alter it as your temps are 55c and not higher (which is within the stable area that Phenom's II's like 55c and under, 60c max for safety.)

Just make sure that it the H50 fan is connected through the Mobo SysFan header, that SmartFan is disabled. That'll keep the fan running at 100% as oppose to slowing it down through the PWM.
 
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l ----->
l[fan][rad] --->airflow into case
l------>
Yeah that's what I meant, that's how I have it. (That's also how they show it in the directions.)

I also downloaded that PhenomMsrTweaker, and according to it, 1.2750 means 1.45v.

I put it on 1.45v and I had 1.6v going through my processor. Buggy program or what? I was like OSHI-. It caught me off guard.

Oh by the way, I don't know where that program got 51C. I've been doing prime95 for the last 10 minutes on a solid 4ghz (no multiplier moving down) and the max i've seen is 47C. But my room may have cooled a couple degrees. Either way, my temps aren't going over 55C at all.

The PhenomMsrTweaker is a ghetto fix, I wish it didn't have this problem in the first place.
Edited by Khaotik55 - 12/20/10 at 9:29pm
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Same problem.

Build:
AMD Phenom X6 1090T
G.SKILL 2X 4GB DDR1600 (1.5V - 9-9-9-24-2N)
ASUS M4A88TD-V EVO 880G Chipset
COOLER MASTER Silent Pro 600W
Cooler Master HAF 922
1TB HDD
100GB HDD (I use for overclocking purposes)
Asus ATI 6870
Noctua NH-D14


With my stock cooler, this would happen at 3720 (with no voltage modifications) at like 54'c.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...uter/werid.png
With my NH-D14, it happen at 42 degrees @ 3960.

Im thinking about just buying a new motherboard at this point.
post #20 of 39
I also facing same problem when i use prime95 .

Is it bcoz of Asus Board ?
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