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UPDATE: Proceed to post #2 for the Final Product
http://www.overclock.net/water-cooling/893605-building-external-water-cooling-system.html#post11710939


~Project Trident: DESIGN PHASE~

Hi all!

Preface:
I am working on designing and building an External Water Cooling System. This will be a self contained box that will house two 2x120mm radiators, pump, reservoir, and have Quick Disconnects for the final Inlet and Outlet to the box.

Forum member "Spotswood" has offered his custom enclosure services when he saw me post in another thread and we started brainstorming and designing.

I will post pictures and information about the final product when done.


Reasoning:
I have a few reasons to pursuing this. I made one brief foray into watercooling before, using a Swiftech kit. However, my computer is located in a footwell under a desk, with a wall behind it. Quite a lot of heat gets trapped there. So having an internal or rear mounted radiator was very ineffective for me, as the radiator could not be cooled well. My temperatures ended up being the same as my previous air cooling temps. Additionally, I was not a fan of the added clutter of having the pump and reservoir inside the case, which made working inside the computer inconvenient. Lastly, since I find myself changing components around a lot, I thought water cooling in general was not a good fit for me, since I would have to be moving around waterblocks and draining the system to add or change blocks.

This idea for an external unit allows me to relocate the bulk of the water cooling system to a more ventillated area for more effective cooling, reduces clutter inside my case, and with the utilization of Quick Disconnects on all the junction points, I will be able to make changes and alterations to my waterblocks with great ease.


Questions:
In the meantime, this is now the tail end of the design phase and I wanted to fish for some ideas and recommendations about a few things.



1) I was initially planning 4 fans on each of the radiators, in a push/pull type configuration. However, I have been reading that push/pull configurations may not be all that much better. So, my question is, would a Push configuration WITH shroud be better than a Push/Pull configuration WITHOUT shroud? (note: the fans I've decided to use are GentleTyphoons)

EDIT: The research indicated here (http://martin.skinneelabs.com/Radiator-Fan-Orientation-And-Shroud-Testing-Review.html) Finds that the Push/Pull is superior to a single Push w/Shroud. However, the difference is so negligible that I may have to forgo the Push/Pull due to the benefits it will have to overall noise. Please share your thoughts on my conclusion.



2) I am also shopping around to find a cost effective double radiator with decent performance. What are the favorites for price/performance ratio?


3) Does anyone have spare dead 120mm fans I can use for making Shroud? I'll pay some nominal fee + shipping for the parts.


A couple of notes about the design. As this is an external box that is planned to be placed in a decently ventilated area instead of the inside or rear of a computer case, I felt I could get away with using GentleTyphoons for cooling the radiators, especially since I am using two radiators. Please let me know if my reasoning is faulty.



Components:
Pump: Swiftech MCP655-B (recycling from an old system)
http://www.swiftnets.com/products/mcp655.asp

Fans: Scythe GentleTyphoon AP-15
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185092

Radiators: 2x XSPC RS240
http://www.xspc.biz/rs240black.php

Reservoir: Swiftech MCRES Micro Reservoir (recycled)
http://www.swiftnets.com/products/MCRES-micro.asp

Enclosure: Custom by Spotswood
(approx 6.5x10.75x14.5 [HxWxD"] aluminum)

Power Supply: Molex Extension from Computer

Fittings: Koolance Quick Disconnects
http://www.koolance.com/water-cooling/product_info.php?product_id=951

CPU Block: Apogee XT w/ AMD Adapter
http://www.swiftnets.com/products/apogee-xt.asp

GPU Block: DD-5970 [Danger Den Radeon 5970 Full Cover Block]
http://www.dangerden.com/store/dd-5970-water-block.html



Design Pictures by OCN Member "Spotswood":

[Features not shown: Vents in bottom plate, holes for quick disconnects in back plate, acrylic window in top plate]

ViksRadBoxA.jpg

ViksRadBoxB.jpg

ViksRadBoxC.jpg

Sized to allow for 38mm fans with shroud:
ViksRadBoxD.jpg
Edited by GaMEChld - 10/12/11 at 6:43am
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~BUILD PHASE~


Hi all, been a long time coming, but I've mostly completed what I've now dubbed Project Trident (not that many of you will find this thing so awesome as to deserve a code name heheh). As for the reason for this delay, chalk it up to nothing more than me being busy and unforgivably lazy as well.

I'll start with some photos for now and flesh it out with description and explanation later, but right now I'm just exhausted.

Enjoy!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spotswood;14465340 
Here are some pics of the case just before it left my shop.


Before installation:

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After Installation:

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Waterblocks:

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I am considering a similar kind of setup, also with a MCP655, but with one 2x140mm radiator. The main reason I want to have the pump and res outside the PC is because it seems safer.

I'm thinking about diy'ing the enclosure using wood smile.gif

edit:

If you can do a simple custom wiring job... I suggest you check out:
http://www.meanwelldirect.co.uk/product/S-60-12/S-60-12/default.htm

I bought mine @ http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10001&catalogId=10001&pa=123335&productId=123335&keyCode=WSF&CID=GMC

This PSU has a ~35 years MTBF, regulated & adjustable voltage (11-13v) many kinds of protection, etc, just need to hook up some wires to it. It's very easy to mount it (has mounting holes for screws).
I would think this PSU is more reliable & heavy duty than the typical power block adapters like the one you linked to.
Edited by hypez604 - 12/20/10 at 3:41am
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Thanks for the info hypez. I still may continue with the original power brick, because I was planning on leaving the brick outside the enclosure, to limit any extra heat sources being introduced near the radiators. I assume any non-actively cooled power supply is going to get noticeably warm. Additionally, by keeping the brick outside, I can make the enclosure as compact as possible.
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Edited by GaMEChld - 12/21/10 at 3:37am
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For me it's a first w/c setup.
I got my case in a desk, I could mount a radiator on the rear side but like you said I'd also like to avoid the clutter in the PC case and be able to move the case without worrying about damaging the radiator by bumping it against something. I think I could dampen the pump vibration easily by placing the external enclosure with all the w/c parts on a stone floor. By having most of the w/c external to the PC case I lower the risk of liquids damaging PC parts.
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I appreciate your setup,wonderful design pics
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Looks cool!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SUPER CHODE;11723339 
you might aswell get a separate box for your hard drives and psu lachen.gif

sad-smiley-002.gif Well, I think my reasoning for doing it like this is sensible. My radiator was baking in a rear mount setup!
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It's not a bad idea at all. There's a reason the Koolance Exos line has survived for so long.
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