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Well I'd go with personal experience and you've got to choose which one would be solid with you for the longest period, don't listen to benchmarks listen to the voice of "Personal Experience"!
    
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I have had both the Xigmatek S1283 (non-nickel plated Dark Knight) and the CoolerMaster 212 Plus. I liked the 212 Plus better because it is better for push pull without resorting to zip ties. Plus AMD mounting is provided, including a back plate.

212 Plus is $26 at Amazon.



If you are going to spend $60 on an air cooler, might as well save up $20 more to get a Noctua D14 or Thermalright Silver Arrow imho.
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If you are going to spend $60 on an air cooler, might as well save up $20 more to get a Noctua D14 or Thermalright Silver Arrow imho.
This^

If you are wanting to save some cash get the 212+. If you are going to spend $60 on a cooler you might as well spend a few extra bucks and go for the high end.

I don't think the dark knight is worth that much of a price difference over the 212+

EDIT: Prolimatech Megahalems on is $63 and better than the DK
Edited by anershay - 12/20/10 at 9:41am
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Originally Posted by mark_thaddeus View Post
I've had my 212+ cooling my q6600 and at load using prime95 max temp is at 54*C (push only setup) so for $31 it's as good as it's going to get. The dark knight is only cooler by 0.1*C and it's not worth the $20 difference in price.

Check out this link:

http://www.frostytech.com/articlevie...id=2562&page=5

If you notice (fan speed, 150w test, 85w test, db) they're literally side by side in terms of performance based on the test above:

Xigmatek HDT-S1283 (high-16.8*C-10.7*C-50.7db)
Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus (high-16.9*C-10.9*C-50.1db)

I further improved the performance of my 212+ by getting coolermaster r4 fan's (vertical position only since sleeve bearing) that pump out 90cfm and are rated at 19db. The original blademaster's are rated at 23db pumping out about 60cfm.

Sorry about my confusion here, but your post intrigued me as I am looking to go to a 2 fan setup on my 212+. I am not clear what you mean by "sleeve bearing", but if I can clip/attach 2 of the fans you are talking about and get the kind of cooling you describe, then I might get 2 of the R4's, or possibly 3 since I more than likely am going to have to also upgrade the rear exhaust fan to keep up to the 2 new fans on the cooler. If a 3rd R4 on the rear exhaust is workable, then it might be the way to go.

Right now the single fan keeps me in the mid 40's @ 4.20 GHz, but I know the 212+ should run 2 fans if you're overclocking. For now I am just getting a 2nd fan that matches the fan that comes with the cooler, but I was wondering if you could run 3 of the R4's in a push-pull setup on a 212+ with the 3rd R4 as the exhaust fan?


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Sleeve bearings are the types that last long only when they are setup in a way that the fans are blowing left~right or right~left and not up~down and vice versa.

Based on what you're describing you plan on doing a push pull setup that directly feeds to the rear of the case which is exactly a vertical setup for the R4's since the fans extract air from the front of the case and exhaust it to the back.

I actually run only 2 R4's, one mounted on my 212+ on a push setup and the other as the exhaust on the rear. I could actually setup a third as the pull on the 212+ but went against it since at 3.6 Ghz on myq6600 I only get 54-54-46-46 (27*C ambient) max on prime95 small ftt 8 hours. Though I do have my top fan as an intake as well directly blowing onto my 212+ together with two 120mm's up front w/ a third 120mm directly blowing into my GPU.

This current setup gives me postive airflow reducing dust being gathered in my case. I used to have a negative pressure setup which actually gave me better temps by 1~2*C but the dust was just annoying.
Edited by mark_thaddeus - 12/20/10 at 2:41pm
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The DK and 212+ are so close that you go with whichever one is cheapest. As one poster mentioned, once you start talking about spending $60 on air cooling, it's time to look high end.
    
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I don't think i need to spend $60 on a cooler. The 212 plus seems like it will do the job nicely and i can spend the money on a fan or two for it to make it better.

I think im set on the 212 plus

Thanks guys
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Made new thread for what was this post

http://www.overclock.net/air-cooling...tec-300-a.html
Edited by Bohica - 12/20/10 at 9:31pm
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Sleeve bearings are the types that last long only when they are setup in a way that the fans are blowing left~right or right~left and not up~down and vice versa.

Based on what you're describing you plan on doing a push pull setup that directly feeds to the rear of the case which is exactly a vertical setup for the R4's since the fans extract air from the front of the case and exhaust it to the back.

I actually run only 2 R4's, one mounted on my 212+ on a push setup and the other as the exhaust on the rear. I could actually setup a third as the pull on the 212+ but went against it since at 3.6 Ghz on myq6600 I only get 54-54-46-46 (27*C ambient) max on prime95 small ftt 8 hours. Though I do have my top fan as an intake as well directly blowing onto my 212+ together with two 120mm's up front w/ a third 120mm directly blowing into my GPU.

This current setup gives me postive airflow reducing dust being gathered in my case. I used to have a negative pressure setup which actually gave me better temps by 1~2*C but the dust was just annoying.

Thanks for clarifying. I think i'll order 2 more of the R4's, and reset my heatsink, since I definitely could have done a better and more correct job of applying my thermal paste and working it in to the base of the heatsink better than I did. Based on some of what I have been reading here, it sounds like my application of the thermal paste was far from optimal. I did not work the paste into the cracks of the heatsink base at all thus robbing me of a few degrees of cooling. I'll be cracking it open after work today anyway to throw in my new video card, so I'll get the Isopropyl and go to work.


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I have a 212+ with 2 120x38mm fans, running around 1800 rpm each, cooling a 1090T @ 3.75 Ghz. It has hit mid 40's C when the room is 83F. Even if you spend the extra money to get high flow fans, the 212+ will run away from the dark knight, and equal the same price. The fin density on these seems to respond quite well to better static pressure...coming from thicker fans, and push/pull setup.
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