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post #21 of 40
OT/Trollin/non-constructive posts...still don't understand why people have to add their two cents when it's counterfeit pennies.

I agreee though OP...should be as simple as fire and forget when you're forking over $500plus for a video card or two. You'd think component designers would have implemented something like built in driver sweeping by now.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by amstech;11713238 
Doesn't sound like you have troubleshooted many GPU driver sets.
With the way drivers embed themselves into .NET framework and the registry, its not umcommon to need a clean install OS, then the newest drivers installed on that new partition.
Again someone who did not read the thread (or even the original post).

Drivers embed themselves into the registry? Really? Thank you, Captain Obvious.

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Originally Posted by mongoloid;11714528 
OT/Trollin/non-constructive posts...still don't understand why people have to add their two cents when it's counterfeit pennies.

I agreee though OP...should be as simple as fire and forget when you're forking over $500plus for a video card or two. You'd think component designers would have implemented something like built in driver sweeping by now.

As much as I hated having to use the Driver Sweeper, the card does seem to be running fantastic now. I had to do this sort of thing when installing ATI HD 3XXX cards on other systems. I never thought I would need to do it with Nvidia's cards. Those days are over. AMD/ATI's drivers and Nvidia's unfortunately appear to be reaching equal footing.
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Nothing to see here. If you know how to self troubleshoot, I don't see the point of the thread.
Too many people use the forums as a soapbox.
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Originally Posted by WorldExclusive;11714641 
Nothing to see here. If you know how to self troubleshoot, I don't see the point of the thread.
Too many people use the forums as a soapbox.

I don't see the point of this person's post. Its like a troll pretending to be a moderator.

a. I am reporting my experiences with the recent Nvidia drivers.

b. I have explained how I resolved those problems.

c. I am offering a warning to Nvidia users that they may need to go through a little more trouble from now on when installing the newer cards.
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Originally Posted by windfire;11712896 
OT for the OP:

If you are using your sig rig to match your GTX580, I have some serious comments:

1. With a powerful card like GTX580, you will have serious CPU bottlenecking. I expect your Phenom 9750 (even overclocked) will struggle. It should already have with your GTX295.

2. What is the resolution of your dumpster-found LCD monitor? I hope it is at least 1920x1080/1200 and not lower than 1680x1050. Or else, the above problem is compounded.

3. And what OS you are running? I hope it is not 32-bit. If yes, GTX580's 1.5GB Vram will eat into your system memory, further making less memory for your system. Remember that 4GB is not fully recognized and it probably starts off with only 3.25-3.5GB.

In short, I think the GTX580 just overwhelms the rest of your system. If your budget is tight, probably it is a better idea to upgrade other components ahead of the graphic card.
Bottlenecks would not cause the issue he is having.
Quote:
Originally Posted by amstech;11713238 
Doesn't sound like you have troubleshooted many GPU driver sets.
With the way drivers embed themselves into .NET framework and the registry, its not umcommon to need a clean install OS, then the newest drivers installed on that new partition.
Using third-party software to remove older drivers should not be necessary. I'm not arguing that it isn't necessary, just that it shouldn't be.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Majestic_Lizard;11714776 
I don't see the point of this person's post. Its like a troll pretending to be a moderator.

a. I am reporting my experiences with the recent Nvidia drivers.

b. I have explained how I resolved those problems.

c. I am offering a warning to Nvidia users that they may need to go through a little more trouble from now on when installing the newer cards.
Haters gonna hate. You've got your card working now. Just ignore the other useless posts. Unfortunately, OCN is full of [insert insulting word here] fanboys that can't stand to hear their brand of choice being insulted.
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Majestic_Lizard;11714573 
Again someone who did not read the thread (or even the original post).

Drivers embed themselves into the registry? Really? Thank you, Captain Obvious.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Majestic_Lizard;11714620 
As much as I hated having to use the Driver Sweeper, the card does seem to be running fantastic now. I had to do this sort of thing when installing ATI HD 3XXX cards on other systems. I never thought I would need to do it with Nvidia's cards. Those days are over. AMD/ATI's drivers and Nvidia's unfortunately appear to be reaching equal footing.

While it's greatly appreciated to share your experiences with others on OCN, as we all learn from other's PC experiences to troubleshoot our own and others problems, it's a bit unnecessary to be so blasé with pretty much every reply to this thread.

While it might be deemed "a pain" to have to do more than simply click Uninstall in Programs & Features or Add/Remove Programs, the simple Uninstallation process of Windows has pretty much always left underlying parts of drivers and registry embodiments on the computer.

If you look at the nVidia or ATi/AMD threads, when people are experiencing problems, one of the first things they're asked is if they used Driver Sweeper or another Driver Cleaner, in Safe Mode, before installing their new Drivers.
I don't really remember much about what I did when I had my Vodoo2 or MX440, but I do know it's been better practice to remove all traces of the Drivers since my 7600GS, when installing a new card and new Drivers.

I've said it before, it's more how Windows stores the Drivers, rather than the previous Drivers being compatible with newer Drivers forcing changes in the way the card works with the PC and performance levels.

If the Drivers were crap, you wouldn't be experiencing a greater time now you've done what alot of people here at OCN call common practice.

Yes, maybe they could develop them so when you Install newer Drivers, if any older sets are found in the registry, they could overwrite or remove them, but I dunno how problematic that'd be integrating that into the Drivers.
As it stands however, it's the way it's been for a while.

I used only Add/Remove Programs on my brothers PC when installing newer Drivers, after experiencing nothing but problems as time went by, I noticed the space they took up was like 3.8GB in the listing.
That's alot of Driver clashing.
Keep in mind, the PC's I look after, I usually do a full wipe and fresh Windows Install every year.
Quote:
Originally Posted by onoz;11714977 
OCN is full of [insert insulting word here] fanboys that can't stand to hear their brand of choice being insulted.

Insult nVidia or ATi/AMd or whoever, I aint gonna cry about it.
But when someone's doing things people are used to doing by nature, expect people to get a bit iffy about it.

Driver Sweeper should have worked once the first time round, to ascertain whether OP ran it correctly in Safe Mode or in normal mode would've been a good start instead of the carry-on that ensued. Don't you think?

nVidia Drivers aint perfect, but to blame them for something that's been common practice here, without considering the aspect of how the Operating System retains information, is a bit much IMO.

Glad you got your card working well though, all's well that ends well.
 
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Originally Posted by EvoBeardy;11716511 
While it might be deemed "a pain" to have to do more than simply click Uninstall in Programs & Features or Add/Remove Programs, the simple Uninstallation process of Windows has pretty much always left underlying parts of drivers and registry embodiments on the computer.
Read the thread before posting. Thanks.
    
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Read the thread before posting. Thanks.

Aren't you tired of acting like that yet?

I read every single bit of it, and asked you a question to try and assist your future Driver cleaning ventures, previously.

Best of luck in the future mate.
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EvoBeardy;11716584 
Aren't you tired of acting like that yet?

I read every single bit of it, and asked you a question to try and assist your future Driver cleaning ventures, previously.

Best of luck in the future mate.

What exactly does this post have to do with Nvidia's drivers or the GTX580?

This person obviously did not read the entire thread because the issues he mentioned were already covered and covered thoroughly. The problem was already solved long before he offered his "advice" which consisted of stating the obvious and repeating what others already said.

Like the other guy said, "haters will hate".

Best of luck and happy holidays to all.
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