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Hey Guys

So I'm planning on upgrading my computer just after christmas, early January, with a bit of extra RAM and some new graphics cards.

Currently I'm running two XFX 9600GT XXX Editions (512MB) in SLI on a XFX 790i SLI mobo. It's all running inside a Thermaltake Armor+ MX. Currently I see peak temps around 80 degree's on both my cards running on passive air cooling whilst gaming. Both cards have another card of some sort sitting infront of the fan, so they're currently not getting their full cooling potential.

I'm thinking of upgrading to two EVGA GeForce GTX 460 1GB EE SuperClocked's. I've been led to believe these are two slot cards and thus I'll have to move some of my other smaller cards around in order to fit it all in. I'm aware that the cards will also have the same problem of limited space and again, will not recieve their full cooling potential.

So to this I pose the question of whether or not these cards will basically set fire and die, or whether they'll be fine to run on air cooling despite their limited space. I'm also not a diehard fan of trying to get the coolest temps, just want it to be cool enough that they'll last atleast two or so years before I think about upgrading again if need be.



TL;DR: Limited space in case, current cards have other smaller misc cards blocking air intake and thus are not getting full cooling potential. Will new two slot cards be fine on passive air cooling despite lack of space, or will they just crash and burn (literally)?


Thanks in advance guys!
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The first thing that I can think of when I see an upgrade from two 9600 GTs to two GTX 460s is this: which power supply do you have? I mean, do you know the exact brand and model? The wattage rating is only a part of the equation.

But yeah, these cards are dual-slot. Additionally, the fan pulls air in and exhausts it out of the rear (but I have a feeling you knew this much hehe).
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Don't bother with 2x460's get yourself 1x 570 and dedicate one of your 9600's to physx.
That's what I would do anyway.
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Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post
The first thing that I can think of when I see an upgrade from two 9600 GTs to two GTX 460s is this: which power supply do you have? I mean, do you know the exact brand and model? The wattage rating is only a part of the equation.

But yeah, these cards are dual-slot. Additionally, the fan pulls air in and exhausts it out of the rear (but I have a feeling you knew this much hehe).
Yea, I know about the cooling system the cards have xD

As for the power supply; It's an OCZ GameXStream 1010W PSU. I knew I was probably more or less going to upgrade down the track when I bought it, so I decided to not have to mess around with power and just get a ridiculous PSU.

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Don't bother with 2x460's get yourself 1x 570 and dedicate one of your 9600's to physx.
That's what I would do anyway.
Hmm, interesting idea. You reckon that'd out perform the 460's?
Edited by Solveig - 12/20/10 at 5:00am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Solveig View Post
Yea, I know about the cooling system the cards have xD

As for the power supply; It's an OCZ GameXStream 1010W PSU. I knew I was probably more or less going to upgrade down the track when I bought it, so I decided to not have to mess around with power and just get a ridiculous PSU.

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Hmm, interesting idea. You reckon that'd out perform the 460's?
I think it would both outperform the 460s a little bit and even be more stable since you're not having to deal with SLI. But using the 9600 GT for PhysX with the 570 is probably silly, but hey overkill is fun!
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It's hard to say out perform however If your gaming, you will be able to max everything on a 570, I can almost on an OC'd 470.
Then your also only adding one dual slot instead of 2 to help with your air flow issue.
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It's hard to say out perform however If your gaming, you will be able to max everything on a 570, I can almost on an OC'd 470.
Then your also only adding one dual slot instead of 2 to help with your air flow issue.
Alright. I was just wondering about whether it would outperform the two 460's as it's costs the exact same to buy a 570 as it does to get the two 460's.


I've been looking at a picture of a bare 790i SLI board and have come to the conclusion that I'm going to have to give up my TV tuner card. I should then have a reasonable amount of area in front of the 460's to keep them cool.
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What do you have in there? Other than the sli'd cards and the tv tuner?
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What do you have in there? Other than the sli'd cards and the tv tuner?
From left to right (Bottom to top);
Sound Card, 9600GT, nothing, TV Tuner, nothing, 9600GT, Wireless card.
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I know this is somewhat necro'ing the thread a little bit, but I thought it'd be wiser to continue with a pre-existing thread than making a new one.

Anyways,

I switched the setup of my current cards this afternoon, something I've been meaning to do for ages as the people who built my computer initially sort of messed it up a little and blocked the intake of my second 9600 with the sound card. I've been getting hot temps on the cards admittedly, hotter than I should be allowing, but nothing has happened thus far. More or less a small miracle.

I switched it so that it looks like this;
(left to right) Nothing, 9600, sound card, TV tuner, nothing, 9600, wireless card.

I didn't see much of a temperature drop to be quite honest. with the second card on the list of speedfan still hitting 100 degrees at max load.



So my question still essentially stands, do you guys think that if I were to opt for dual 460's, I'd be going way too high in temps and potentially burning out the card? Bearing in mind of course that these are the External Exhaust versions of the card, so slightly better airflow.
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