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I'm starting to play more games on my HTPC, it currently has a 4850 1GB which still does a good job but some of the games are starting to work it a little bit lately. I need some recommendations on a good upgrade.

I prefer ATI as they seem to work better with HD playback (unless a lot has changed lately). Onboard HDMI is a must and it needs to be short. My current card is short and it's about the max length that I can go due to the power being on the tail of the card, if it was on top I could go a little longer. I don't have the exact measurement but it's around 1" shorter than standard 4850's. My case is a CoolerMaster Elite 360 if that gives any indication to how much space I have. I do have a 600w PSU.

My current CPU is an Athlon X2 4600+ (2.4GHz) / 4GB Patriot Gaming / 4850 1GB HDMI (Sapphire 4850)

I can upgrade to an Athlon x4 to avoid cpu bottlenecking..

So any suggestions?
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I'm looking at the 6850 and it appears to be the close to the same length by pic comparison, anyone have one they could measure for me?

Do any of the 6850's have the top power connector?
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From 6850 I recommend http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-908-_-Product because You get 15% off with the promo code and 15$ also off with the rebate or if You have some more money and would like to get very low temps then I would choose this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-353-_-Product
Why do You need power connector on the top? In my mind the 6850 PCB layout is all the same so the power connector is always the same not depending of the manufacturer. Remark me if I am wrong. Also Your CPU will be a bottleneck accompanied by 6850.
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Connector on top would work best as this particular case does not allow for a long card as it butts up against the PSU.

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Based on the sizes I have seen the GTX460 is around 8.25". This is right on par with the 4850 that I have. Will the GTX460 be a good upgrade?

I want to upgrade to a DirectX 11 card that has good tessellation support.
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Based on the sizes I have seen the GTX460 is around 8.25". This is right on par with the 4850 that I have. Will the GTX460 be a good upgrade?

I want to upgrade to a DirectX 11 card that has good tessellation support.
Forget GTX 460. 6850/6870 is the way to go if you want stronger tesellation and better performance. I've had 5870, just sold it and bought 6870. It's on par with 5870 once overclocked to 1020/1150Mhz and outperforms it when it comes to tesellation.

An Athlon II X3 or X4 @ ~3.6Ghz would remove any bottleneck don't worry.
Also your PSU is more than enough. It even has headroom for overclocking that 6870 and CPU. So you'll be fine.

I remember my old rig with 2x 4850 and E7200@ 3.3Ghz powered by 500W PC Power&Cooling Single rail PSU. It was running all fine. That PSU was legend to me once.

EDIT: About the length of the card. Just measured my 6870, it is 25,5 or 26cm (sry don't use inches here).
Edited by Nautilus - 12/21/10 at 6:41am
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This is for a HTPC though so I do not want to overclock as I'm trying to keep the heat down. I would go to a x3 / x4 @ 3.0-3.2 stock to help with the bottlenecking.
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HD6870's length is >10'' and so I do not think it fits your requirement of a compact card fitting into your HTPC case.

I think GTX460 is a good choice and probably HD5770 as well. HD5770 is also as compact if not even a little bit shorter. See the pics below for size comparison.

I would suggest the 460 over 5770. Read this article for general further info:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/vid...gtx-460_9.html

For a specific GTX460, take a look at this Palit GTX460 1GB Sonic Platinium. It (at 7.4'') is even shorter than usual GTX460s (8.25'') and its two 6-pin power connectors are facing upward! It has 1xHDMI.

Review link:http://www.overclockersclub.com/revi...platinum/2.htm
Newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-076-_-Product



Edited by windfire - 12/21/10 at 7:35am
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As someone who has owned both ATI and Nvidia cards, I think that Nvidia has finally caught up to ATI in the HTPC market. All Nvidia GTX 4xx/5xx cards have an onboard audio codec for HDMI passthrough, and H.264/VC-1/MPEG4 ASP hardware decode also works flawlessly, as is the case with ATI. That said, a GTX 460 (or wait for the new GTX 560) will be a solid card. Can't go wrong with ATI 6800 cards either though.
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