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This is very cool
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post #52 of 64
Does this mean they never misplace their keys? If so, the things I would do for this kind of memory....
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Originally Posted by Mach 5 View Post
Thanks for the information, the part im struggling with is forming memory associations but I'll read up on that later on.

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the trick is to make the associative image so absurd you couldn't possibly forget it. If you saw a 10 foot chicken sitting on your shopping list as a reminder of what to buy, would you forget it?
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That's not how it works. A majority of the people are only able to recall what they have experienced. A completely different part of the brain deals with this type of memorization.
Darn! Just think if you could memorize everything the first time! Spend a year reading wikipedia and you could do just about everything in your area!
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i remember hearing about this a little while ago. some guy got hit on the head with a baseball and has been able to recall the weather for everyday since then for like 10 years or something.
     
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well for me, i cant really just recall something in in the past, but if i think about something, it usually leads to another which some how unlocks my memory. like a chain reaction. the funny thing is, i probably wont remember what i did yesterday, but for some unknown reason maybe 10 years down the road, i'll do something that makes me remember somehow. funny how memory works
thats because linking two or more pieces of information will open up neurons and enhance the memory of the information that you just took in, thats why you dont remember things you dont find interesting because you cant link it to other information. If your level of concentration is high enough, you can link almost every info you take in and remember it. the definition of 'smart' to me is the level of concentration.
sorry if this didnt make any sense, my english isnt very good.
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At risk of receiving flame from the "I disagree with anything I dont understand" sect, I will pass along what I have learned, cant guarantee it will work for you, but I can say it has worked wonders for me. It started with a paragraph from a book I read years ago but didnt really understand it until much later, to paraphrase it.

"Your average man can go through most of his day without ever activating his mind and forming a detailed memory about what he has done unless something out of the ordinary happens, we test this by looking at ourselves as we get ready for work. We roll out of bed, drink our morning coffee, smoke our morning cigarette, we run the shower and hop in, pick out our clothes and walk out the door. We walk the same route to work every day, one foot in front of the next, deep in thought about bills, woman, and activities planned for later in the day, subconsciously we dodge cars, nod at people we make eye contact with and not once do we trip. Block after block we walk until we reach work, we sit down in our cubicle and clock in. At that moment if someone were to stop and talk to this man and ask him for details about his morning, he cannot give you any, he can tell you what he did, but his memory is deceiving, a mashup of all the memories he has of doing these things 1000 times previously, nothing stands out. He has been for all intents and purposes sleepwalking for an hour, moved multiple miles through traffic and people without once addressing the world with an active mind"

And its true, think about the things you do every day, try to pick out details specifically from today, unless something was completely out of the ordinary (car accident, small explosion, traveling through time) you never formed the memories, because you have been trained not to need them. If you fight that learned programming next time you wake up, actively commit things to memory, the colors of cars that pass, exactly how many cigarettes left in the pack, anything and everything really. Take mental pictures and file them away, while doing that create memory associations with everything. Do not take anything for granted, do yourself a favor, try to memorize license plates.

The more you take in the more you train your mind to do it subconsciously, eventually you will do just that you will without having to think about it you will be actively absorbing info, a heightened sense of awareness. Its all about actively using your mind, actively seeing things, humans used to, they used to have to, walking through the forest with a spear, their life depended on seeing that animal's print in the ground, the smell of a rotting carcass, the sound of branches moving because they were touched rather than because the wind blew them. We have very little danger in our lives these days compared to those, we dont have to wonder if there is a puma in the next tree ready to rip us to pieces and thus through generations we stopped doing it.

Again, your results may vary. But I guarantee you will see and experience infinitely more than you did the previous day, we are a society of sleepwalkers, mindlessly wandering through every day, never seeing anything, and certainly not remembering it.
<puts on flame suit and awaits the naysayers>
I totally agree on the associating to other memories part. I've been experimenting for years now and found that memories stay only when linked to other memories. so basically the more information you take in, the easier it is remembering other things later on. But to be able to link to other memories requires concentration and i found that to be the best ability ever. Playing video games or chess for instance helps to enhance your concentration and so try to challenge yourself on focusing on specific things such as the thing that you said, the number plates. It takes only brain effort and can make you a very smart person.
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post #58 of 64
Ok but now tell me how lucid dreaming works. Jk

A thought...I noticed a few people referencing evolution but...isn't this just a mutation? As it stands I can't think of a reason why people with this ability have a better chance of surviving and breeding than the regular people, or perhaps rather why regular people would have a worse chance.
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Ok but now tell me how lucid dreaming works. Jk
I have always had a very active dream life, I believe they are the key to your subconscious mind, sleep when you are very stressed and your mind will help to solve problems you cant solve while you are active, the trick is remembering them.

Lucid dreaming is harder, because you have to recognize that you are asleep, without waking up. For me, my ability to do it is off and on but easier since I hurt my back a few years ago. Because now, if I am dreaming, the moment I move, take a step, jump off something, anything and I am not in pain, I know I am dreaming, it doesn't work every time because many times I am in pain in my dream as well. But the times where I am not, I know I am dreaming because nothing hurts.

If you cant tell, I am a firm believer in the power of the mind.
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post #60 of 64
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I trained myself to have a photographic memory
I know you have other posts but this was most relevant. There is no photographic memory. You remember through association, explain below.


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I totally agree on the associating to other memories part. I've been experimenting for years now and found that memories stay only when linked to other memories. so basically the more information you take in, the easier it is remembering other things later on. But to be able to link to other memories requires concentration and i found that to be the best ability ever. Playing video games or chess for instance helps to enhance your concentration and so try to challenge yourself on focusing on specific things such as the thing that you said, the number plates. It takes only brain effort and can make you a very smart person.
That's how you learn/remember. Memories are no different than learned skills, they are just a repeat of events that you have structured into something. We build up memories and thought patterns off of previous ideas, such as a circle becomes a sphere and that sphere becomes a basketball. If you train your mind to associate things better you well learn and remember things more. This goes for everything, but there are different types of association. When I started drawing art I had to re-associate what I thought of objects. Objects in reality appear much different than objects on a picture, it's a whole different learning curve. While you can train your brain to do these things you will never be perfect.

The mind doesn't do an imprint of a memory like we think of a jpeg picture. It's not a set group of data, rather we think of it differently. To best explain, every time you remember an event or place your brain is re-creating every detail from scrach off a vague imprint of associations. Basically memories are re-created, fresh, every time you think about it. This makes things difficult though as people don't understand the problems with this. The way our brains re-create memories makes it extremely easy to falsify memories. This is as simple as doctoring pictures of events and showing them to the end subject.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/20...ence.research1

There's a lot more research on it, and some of the ideas are way bizarre. There was another story about a person being shown a photo of them riding a ferris wheel. Now they were shown this for 2 weeks and eventually they started postulating new memories from that. In effect they were creating entirely new memories from that photo, all of which were wrong.

So far the research behind the studies done like this all point to memory still being relevant to physical brain attributes. This may not be noticeable but could be a simple re-mapping of the brain's internal structure. Such as how people who learn two languages at birth have them share the same brain regions. Either way you either have a larger brain, or you give up another part of your brain for this function.
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