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I was wondering if this would be considered a good thing to do.
Wouldn't it be more precise if you had a 6000 dpi mouse running at 6000 dpi and having windows slow down the speed or slow it down in each game?

I always hear about people running their mouse at around 1600-2500 dpi when they have expensive mice, but why keep it that low? (low as opposed to maximum)
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The rule is that you have to keep the Windows mouse speed at 6/11. Changing it is out of the question because in either direction you would introduce acceleration.

High DPI is kind of a gimmick. I've got a 3200 DPI mouse (g9) but I have it set to 800 DPI. I'm a mouse noob but I heard that other features are more important such as the sensor your mouse uses.
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I do is this: Set the DPI all the way up and do your choice of task - whatever you built your machine for. Personally, I game.., Usually FPS's - CSS, COD, etc...
Next, Adjust the sensitivity (Either in game or in windows) after a bit of playing to your liking, Taking into account this is the highest level... From there, Adjust your DPI levels then (if possible) for the middle, and lower levels to find sweet spots and properly utilize the sensitivity setting you set.

Turn pointer precision off.

Hope it makes sense.


Edit: My windows sensitivity is at 5.. I use a logitech G9x. Have no problems with how I use my mouse. AFAIK there's more than one way to skin a cat.... or a mouse. All that matters is you're comfortable.
Edited by Rob0tuss1n - 12/20/10 at 8:00pm
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Because DPI is a misleading term specifically emphasized by clever gaming peripheral maker's marketing departments.

DPI as a term deals with resolutions so naturally it implies that higher will be better, however what's actually going on is that a higher DPI mouse really only equates to faster cursor speed.

The only time a higer DPI mouse is more accurate than a lower one is if you actually want that higher cursor speed. Adding values to a low DPI mouse to give a higher cursor speed results in interpolation errors and will provide a jerky stair step effect in the tracking.

If you tell Windows to lower the cursor speed you're effectively nullifying the DPI just the same by having it reduce the measured input through software calculation.

If we want these super high DPI mice to truly be more accurate at preferred operation speeds we'll need our monitors to increase their pixels per inch by quite a bit.
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Since you say 6000 DPI, may I presume that you own a Roccat Kone+? Either way, if you are really worried about it you should take the true DPI and software acceleration into account. For example, the Roccat Kone+ advertises 6000 DPI, but its sensor is really only good for 5000 DPI (same sesnor as Steel Series Xia, Logitech G500, G700, and G9X, exct.), which is plenty, and anything over that 5000 DPI is likely software accelerated.
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Originally Posted by bojinglebells View Post
Because DPI is a misleading term specifically emphasized by clever gaming peripheral maker's marketing departments.
At least they didn't start calling it DPI.

Quote:
DPI as a term deals with resolutions so naturally it implies that higher will be better, however what's actually going on is that a higher DPI mouse really only equates to faster cursor speed.

The only time a higer DPI mouse is more accurate than a lower one is if you actually want that higher cursor speed. Adding values to a low DPI mouse to give a higher cursor speed results in interpolation errors and will provide a jerky stair step effect in the tracking.

If you tell Windows to lower the cursor speed you're effectively nullifying the DPI just the same by having it reduce the measured input through software calculation.

If we want these super high DPI mice to truly be more accurate at preferred operation speeds we'll need our monitors to increase their pixels per inch by quite a bit.
I agree but not on a technical term.

That's only true for an 2D enviroment like the Windows Desktop but has nothing to do with a Game with a 3D-Engine.
The game doesnt care about your display or resolution, it's only limited by it's own smallest angle you can turn your avatar.

Ofc you still are limited by your resolution, you can only aim at what you can see, but in thoery it is more accurate.
In practice it would be an acuuracy you don't benefit from (to some limit) and more CPI are technically not more accurate, it's more the other way around.

--> You need enough CPI, not more.

PS: That is based on lowering the ingame sensitivity, lowering the Windows or Mouse Driver Sensitivity will not result in this "useless higher accuracy".

edit: stupid Skype Add-On thinks "1600-2500 dpi" is a phone number
Edited by Bullveyr - 12/21/10 at 12:58pm
post #7 of 11
Right, but game engines are going to be built with the largest common denominator in mind, which is far and away 400-800dpi.

And several games will behave differently such as 3rd person perspectives and RTS games, etc.

At any rate, as long as people understand they're not going to gain anything from running their mouse at its highest DPI (in fact it reduces the mouse's flexibility, for instance should you ever want higher sensitivity on the fly such as controlling a gun turret that has slower responding controls)
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I just wish game company would stop giving us ****e console ports. BFBC2 feels awfull compared to source games.
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lol no way, BC2 is still very PC-centric, not that your comment as anything to do with the topic
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At any rate, as long as people understand they're not going to gain anything from running their mouse at its highest DPI (in fact it reduces the mouse's flexibility, for instance should you ever want higher sensitivity on the fly such as controlling a gun turret that has slower responding controls)
I've yet to run into any flexibility issue's. Raising the DPI can help if you just want to be able to turn faster and not mess with jacking the sens itself up.

Buliver's post put it perfectly and that's pretty much it. So long as you're not seeing stairstep's on your desktop, then DPI is a non-issue.
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