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The Cloud won't possible be able to replace desktop PC's. Not even the Internet in Korea and Japan is fast enough (latency and bandwidth) to be able to transfer data fast enough to be able to provide a smooth working environment. Northern America and Europe's connections are so horrid it'd be ridiculous to even imagine the cloud ever going anywhere but nowhere, especially with ISP's throttling and capping Internet. But ISP's want the cloud to become standard and mainstream, they can then force you to sell your entire lineage into slavery just so you can play a game you will literally have to rent.

Do I even need to mention that the Western world is roughly only 20% of the world, and that the rest of the 80% just don't care about the cloud? If Windows dies and Linux finally take over everyone here will just as easily switch over, without caring and Linux will just get the support it needs. Hopefully, a new OS will be made that is as easy to use as Windows but open source.

So, in short, the Cloud is still born and it's not odd that Linux rules, as it was made for servers and not desktop machines, or the average user.
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Excellent dissertation on that, plus rep!
Thank you very much, I do try to make an intelligent post from time to time.
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Now I see the full switch and possibly even serious gaming coming to Ubuntu, let's just hope it remains free, as in forever!
Like Duckie said...I honestly don't know how gaming is related to EC2 cloud computing at all. Planning on running a gaming VM on EC2 or something?

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It's like Darth Vader. More machine than man now.
LOL! Nice.

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Linux "rules" the Cloud only because the entire system is server based, and always has been - even when running on the console.
I would add that Linux is free. Developers (or whoever) can go nuts spawning, dropping, respawning whatever machine they want without having to worry about software licenses, right? Or even if the cloud service includes the licensing in its fees, those fees would be higher than a Linux VMs fees, right? It's not like Microsoft is giving away their server OS, and the cloud provider certainly isn't going to eat those costs.
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Wow, I expect ubuntu to be the most popular desktop OS, but the most popular cloud based? Not what I expected.
    
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I don't see Ubuntu making any headway in the West any time soon. The only reason they have #1 is because of OLPC and its free nature. And once it inevitably starts charging for services, as it has started already with Ubuntu One, it will lose much of its appeal.

On that note, I use Fedora. Fedora is Linux for men.
    
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I would add that Linux is free. Developers (or whoever) can go nuts spawning, dropping, respawning whatever machine they want without having to worry about software licenses, right? Or even if the cloud service includes the licensing in its fees, those fees would be higher than a Linux VMs fees, right? It's not like Microsoft is giving away their server OS, and the cloud provider certainly isn't going to eat those costs.
I'd like to believe that the main reason is that Linux can be slimmed down much more than Windows or OS X could and is perfect for terminals for that reason (For example, DSL runs purely from the RAM, eliminating the cost of a HDD), but yeah, it's probably costs.
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On that note, I use Fedora, but Arch Linux is Linux for men.
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It has it's own patched kernel thats way behind the vanilla kernel, and they don't even share the source for the patches last I heard. Real FOSS-like.
Well considering they would be in massive legal hot water for breaching the GNU GPL if they didn't share the source I tend to disagree. Mostly likely you're referring to that article that said Ubuntu contributes only 1% to GNOME (or something like that). That's hardly surprising since the GNOME 2.2x project is stuck in the mud and anything that is more than a security fix is not conservative enough to be merged with the mainline source tree.

The only other thing you could be referring to is the Ubuntu One software which is a combination of GNU GPL v3 client-side code and proprietary code for the server-side implementation.

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The problem with Ubuntu is that it's changed so much of Linux that as long as it keeps doing that, it won't be like Linux soon.
What exactly is the definition of "like Linux"? I don't like some of the changes that Ubuntu includes over the vanilla code, but the Linux community prides itself on choice and flexibility, so if anything Ubuntu fits that well because it does things different to everyone else. Strictly speaking Slackware is the only distro that is truly "like Linux" because it is the only distro (that I know of anyway) which doesn't patch anything. Everyone else thinks they know better.
    
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Well considering they would be in massive legal hot water for breaching the GNU GPL if they didn't share the source I tend to disagree. Mostly likely you're referring to that article that said Ubuntu contributes only 1% to GNOME (or something like that). That's hardly surprising since the GNOME 2.2x project is stuck in the mud and anything that is more than a security fix is not conservative enough to be merged with the mainline source tree.
It wasn't an article, it was something one of the linux doods here on OCN said that I took at face value. Come to think of it, though, your right about the GPL bit.

I guess that means my utter hatred for Ubuntu is slightly baseless, so I guess I have to refine it to more of a general dislike.

I still love Arch though.
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Arch FTW
    
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