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Heh...
Why is it a conspiracy theory when you try to tell people whats in the net neutrality bill?

Why dont you look it up and read it for your self and protect our dam internet like a real citizen. Instead of debating the reality of what we face.

Net neutrality is not net neutrality, its internet take over.

This is a global coordinated attack on the internet by the united nations.

Google united nations mull internet

Article is from dec 17th 2010 from over 1000+ known news sources and tech websites. They are attempting to put a panel together to regulate the internet, mainly because of wikileaks.
Edited by finalturismo - 12/21/10 at 7:31am
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Heh...
Why is it a conspiracy theory when you try to tell people whats in the net neutrality bill?

Why dont you look it up and read it for your self and protect our dam internet like a real citizen. Instead of debating the reality of what we face.

Net neutrality is not net neutrality, its internet take over.


Like always. I completely agree.
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the internet: slowly getting worse with every passing day
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for anyone who gives a crap about our internet, this is the guy that keeps pressing the net neutrality bill......
So you still think its net neutrality ?
Its obvious there is not debate on what this is, the forum moderators them selfs should have you call congress and tell them this is insanity. BTW this bill will give the fcc the power to regulate the internet.if you guys wana remove this post for its political view go for it, help destroy the internet.


Edited by finalturismo - 12/21/10 at 7:45am
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That's not tiering, that's Quality of Service (QoS). When implemented in a non-biased way, an individual's personal interpretation of what's "much more important" is not relevant. What's important is the impact of delayed packets to the final provided service. So services dependent on faster/real-time packet delivery for the level service delivery a customer expects (VOIP and videoconferencing, maybe even online gaming) should absolutely take precedence over services that have take significant impact from delayed packet delivery, apart from perhaps taking a minute or two longer overall.
I would agree, if it was non-biased. But when the ISPs see fit to reap huge profits off of VOIP - and then decide that my download is not important because they do not like the protocol I am using, or the site I am downloading from, or choose to deeply inspect my packets, and then in turn, increase my rates while dropping my speed and chopping the cap - that is a de facto tiered service.

I have major problems with ISPs getting into the VOIP game - simply because we already have infrastructure to carry telephone; while we do not have such infrastructure to do things like email or downloading. I would have less hesistation of ISPs were actually investing in net technology, like fiber optic networks direct to the home. I wouldn't have any problems if the ISPs were actually in competition, rather than being a pack of the profit-mad all in the same kind of collusion that big oil companies engage in their constant rip-offs.

We have a ver real issue with QoS - or rather, the lack of any actual Quality except for the shoddy and shady. Perhaps in the US things are "better", relatively speaking, but up here, the whole scene is bleak, nothing more than a sordid orgy between the duopolists who shovel out their dreck, and the CRTC regulators that buy into it based on the graft and payola shoveled into their pockets. And really, the small, independent ISPs can't even make headway, because the same pack of degenerates insist on instituting the same "rules" that much up that kind of service. The US is lucky that they have a pork barrel for their politicians - ours is more of a stinking heap of rotten manure that they continually shovel upon the consumer.

But then again - Canada attained the same level of consumer protection that the US had during what, the Ford Administration - where the government can now force companies to recall unsafe products. And to think, it's only 2010.

Tiered services - no need for a leaked presentation - in Canada, that is the only way they play the game, it's tiered and low quality all the way - all for the highest imaginable price.
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for anyone who gives a crap about our internet, this is the guy that keep pressing the net neutrality bill......
So you still think its net neutrality ?
I never did think it was net neutrality. Rockefeller - what a joke. Government regulations of the Internet are a complete joke, judging by the Digital Millenium Act, which remains garbage beyond all belief.

Being an old timer, I know that the "Internet" was was better in the old days, when the schools and the military ran it. Once the government got involved, well, all of that quality disappeared.

It should be that ISPs provide Internet Services. If people are breaking the law and comitting crimes, that should be the police, not the ISPs. And if the government doesn't like criticism, then they should choose either to not run for office, or not engage in the endless nefarious and furtive behaviours they tend to engage in. Net neutrality should mean a net operated by the people, for the people - and not for some big brotherism of paranoia and stupidity.
post #27 of 95
I hate what the world today has become. It has gone from who can get the most customers by having the best services, to who can earn the most money by screwing their customers over the most.

All everyone cares about is money. Sure, money does make the world go round, but why does it have to be the only thing anyone cares about?
post #28 of 95
Not wishing to derail the thread, but related to this is the recent takeover of British Sky Broadcasting by Rupert Murdoch's News Corporation. News Corp. I know own everyone's favourite news channel - Fox News - and they will own Sky (who also offer Internet access here in the UK).

There seems to be an intent to regulate information, no matter the channel used to disseminate it. All of the pieces are being moved into position.
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post #29 of 95
No doubt you've all heard the good news already.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12046874

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US regulators have approved new rules meant to prohibit broadband companies from interfering with internet traffic.
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No doubt you've all heard the good news already.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12046874
now is it fancy talk for them screwing us or is this actually really good news? tired so i cant be bothered to read right now
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