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With some luck you may be able to increase the voltage on the core without performing any hardware based modifications.

If this is possible, then it opens up the window to overclocking past the 640MHz barrier.
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Originally Posted by Volvo View Post
With some luck you may be able to increase the voltage on the core without performing any hardware based modifications.

If this is possible, then it opens up the window to overclocking past the 640MHz barrier.


I cannot change any voltages.
I have enabled "Unlock voltage" in MSI afterburner settings, but still nothing.
    
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I would be leaning towards his PSU can't supply enough power to the video card once he starts overclocking it...

But I would wait on some of the PSU GURUS to chime in on this post.
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I hate to say it but could it be the fact that it is a 4650? They werent really designed as high level gamer cards, could be the chip just isnt binned for OC'ing. I had a 4830, which is a few steps above the 4650 and while it was a decent little overclocker, it certainly didnt have the overclocking headroom/potential of my 4870 Toxic or my 5870, or even the 5770 I won from sapphire.

While overclocking is the art of extracting performance from middle of the road stuff, it still requires the hardware to have performance to extract. I compare it to building import cars, the Civic, Eclipse, Prelude all can be made to be pretty quick cars, because they have horsepower to extract, their parts are made to operate higher than they do. the same cant be said for say a geo metro hatchback, no amount of intake's, exhaust manifolds etc is going to extract any kind of power out of that half dead 3 cylinder engine

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I would be leaning towards his PSU can't supply enough power to the video card once he starts overclocking it...

But I would wait on some of the PSU GURUS to chime in on this post.
Even if it is a low end 520w power supply I cant see it struggling on a 4650
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I would be leaning towards his PSU can't supply enough power to the video card once he starts overclocking it...

But I would wait on some of the PSU GURUS to chime in on this post.
I have a 520watt ACE PSU and on the GPU box it recommends a 400watt PSU

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I hate to say it but could it be the fact that it is a 4650? They werent really designed as high level gamer cards, could be the chip just isnt binned for OC'ing. I had a 4830, which is a few steps above the 4650 and while it was a decent little overclocker, it certainly didnt have the overclocking headroom/potential of my 4870 Toxic or my 5870, or even the 5770 I won from sapphire.

While overclocking is the art of extracting performance from middle of the road stuff, it still requires the hardware to have performance to extract. I compare it to building import cars, the Civic, Eclipse, Prelude all can be made to be pretty quick cars, because they have horsepower to extract, their parts are made to operate higher than they do. the same cant be said for say a geo metro hatchback, no amount of intake's, exhaust manifolds etc is going to extract any kind of power out of that half dead 3 cylinder engine



Even if it is a low end 520w power supply I cant see it struggling on a 4650
But I have seen people OC the HD4650 by over 100Mhz+
    
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Yeah you wouldn't think so Priest but it still had to be thrown in the mix as being a possible issue... plus there is always the issue of airflow as even the OP doesn't know what case he has is rig in.
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Yeah you wouldn't think so Priest but it still had to be thrown in the mix as being a possible issue... plus there is always the issue of airflow as even the OP doesn't know what case he has is rig in.
the card is not overheating. after playing GTA IV for about 3hours im bearly touching 60c. idle im at 36c.

I am uploading some pictures of my case as we speak.
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I have a 520watt ACE PSU and on the GPU box it recommends a 400watt PSU
What I was getting it is just because the PSU is labeled 520W doesn't necessarily mean it can actually produce 520W.

And those do look like good temps, maybe it is just what Priest said earlier that your card just can't overclock... not every card can do it.
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http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads...Preview_1.html

Download that and click stability test with a MILD OC. Like 10mhz. Let it run for at least 5 minutes. That program will actually tell you in the bottom left if there are any errors.

Do this for the core clock only. Find the max where it starts getting errors and make sure you quickly close the window as soon as it errors as to not lock the card up.

Once you find the max dial it back 10mhz and repeat the same process for the memory. Upon finding the high limit with out artifacting dial back 10mhz.

Also I don't know how loud your fan is on that card but I had a 3450 in my rig for a week while my 6870 came in and it LOVED being on 100% fan all the time. A cold GPU is a happy GPU. That card got to I think 775mhz/ 585mhz with 100% fan. Don't quote me on that. It was only in for a week and that OC was done the first bootup, lol.

Hope this helps. I know it's gonna take time, but when it comes to OC'ing GPUs a small slip up will become very frustrating when it crashes in games.

Good Luck!
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What I was getting it is just because the PSU is labeled 520W doesn't necessarily mean it can actually produce 520W.

And those do look like good temps, maybe it is just what Priest said earlier that your card just can't overclock... not every card can do it.
well I paid £45 for the PSU so I do hope it comes atleast close to 520watt.

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http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads...Preview_1.html

Download that and click stability test with a MILD OC. Like 10mhz. Let it run for at least 5 minutes. That program will actually tell you in the bottom left if there are any errors.

Do this for the core clock only. Find the max where it starts getting errors and make sure you quickly close the window as soon as it errors as to not lock the card up.

Once you find the max dial it back 10mhz and repeat the same process for the memory. Upon finding the high limit with out artifacting dial back 10mhz.

Also I don't know how loud your fan is on that card but I had a 3450 in my rig for a week while my 6870 came in and it LOVED being on 100% fan all the time. A cold GPU is a happy GPU. That card got to I think 775mhz/ 585mhz with 100% fan. Don't quote me on that. It was only in for a week and that OC was done the first bootup, lol.

Hope this helps. I know it's gonna take time, but when it comes to OC'ing GPUs a small slip up will become very frustrating when it crashes in games.

Good Luck!
Thank you mate, Will do that now, ill also post the pics of my case to help you lot that are trying to help
    
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