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Also there was an increase in number of texture units from 192 to 216 GTX 260, which is what's mostly responsible for the performance increase between them, and as far as I'm aware, there's not going to be any more texture units/ROPs on the 560, correct me if I'm wrong.
GTX 560 is going to have 64 TMU, compared to 56 TMU of GTX 460
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It won't. Not the current GTX 460 prices anyway.

And I still see this as a worthless upgrade from any 46X and higher GPU, since the only thing stopping 460s performance-wise is the lack of extra memory at higher resolutions, which the 560 ain't gonna fix.

Also there was an increase in number of texture units from 192 to 216 GTX 260, which is what's mostly responsible for the performance increase between them, and as far as I'm aware, there's not going to be any more texture units/ROPs on the 560, correct me if I'm wrong.
Obviously at release it won't be like current 460 pricing, I meant release pricing for both.
If the prices drop like the 460's did, that'll make it a win card for those wishing to upgrade from ~GTS450.

It is a worthless upgrade from 460+, I already said it's like the difference between a 260-192 and a 275, of which the increase wasn't justified by the money at all, unless you could just pay the extra and trade in.

The memory bus and size is limiting the 460 at higher res, but for a fully enabled core with the 560, it's still gonna be more than 10% faster and more powerful clock for clock than the 460, and faster except at very high res than the 470.
The 470 is a logical minimal upgrade from 2XX series (bar 295).

The GF104 had 384 cores, 64 TMU's, 32 ROPs but was cut down to what we see in the 460, so it'll have 64 vs 54 TMU's.

GTX 260-192 had 64 TMU's, 260-216 had 74, 275 had 80 I think.
 
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GTX 560 is going to have 64 TMU, compared to 56 TMU of GTX 460
Ah well in that case, it'll be about a 10% performance increase I guess. If Nvidia price it at £190, it should sell ok, providing its performance is between a 6870 and a 6950 or above it.
    
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Hmm I got a 260 core 216 atm so your saying its not worth upgrading to 460 let alone 560.
I understand why you say that but its just I cant afford the extra for the 570. The Talon 460 matches or just looses to the 470 so thats the best bang for buck card out atm and I doubt the 560 will be priced at the same price as the Talon.
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Hmm I got a 260 core 216 atm so your saying its not worth upgrading to 460 let alone 560.
I understand why you say that but its just I cant afford the extra for the 570. The Talon 460 matches or just looses to the 470 so thats the best bang for buck card out atm and I doubt the 560 will be priced at the same price as the Talon.
Nar, not at all mate.

From the 260's you'd get a nice upgrade going to the 460 or the 560, especially for the price. The 460 falls between the 285 (the fastest single GPU-based card in the previous line-up) and the 470 in terms of power, and when OC'd keeps up with the 470, while being alot cooler than the 470.

The Talon's 155 quid, when it first came out it was 189. (I need to get one ASAP!!)
It's entirely feasible that MSI Cyclone's for example will be around 170-180 quid or so for the 560.
And should drop down with the release of OC editions within a few months.
 
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GTX 470 Hawk? :3
Yea whats the problem?
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Nar, not at all mate.

From the 260's you'd get a nice upgrade going to the 460 or the 560, especially for the price. The 460 falls between the 285 (the fastest single GPU-based card in the previous line-up) and the 470 in terms of power, and when OC'd keeps up with the 470, while being alot cooler than the 470.

The Talon's 155 quid, when it first came out it was 189. (I need to get one ASAP!!)
It's entirely feasible that MSI Cyclone's for example will be around 170-180 quid or so for the 560.
And should drop down with the release of OC editions within a few months.
well I will be shocked if the GTX560 will be less then £200 for the vanilla cards.
Depends on how they can OC too cause if they cant OC as well as the 460 then I might as well got for Talon.
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Yea whats the problem?
Exactly my point. What're you complaining about? That card's got an awesome heatsink and should do 900Mhz easy. <3
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well I will be shocked if the GTX560 will be less then £200 for the vanilla cards.
Depends on how they can OC too cause if they cant OC as well as the 460 then I might as well got for Talon.
You've gotta keep in mind that they're taking the price point of the lowest "high performance" range (mid-range) as all before have done, 'cos they fall into the price range of other card's territories, including the HD6850/6870 series. It'd be poor form for nVidia to release them much higher.

Power-wise it may compete with the 470, but range and territory-wise, it's folllowing the 260's and 460's, so will still be in the 150-200 quid price range.

They'll undoubtably OC well, how well from actual reference speeds we won't know until someone gets their hands on them. The 460's had brilliant OC's thanks to the disable unit's, however they've had time to refine the core so 950's for an OC is plausible.

OC editions and versions with great coolers or BIOS revisions won't be out for a while, soon as I get the dollar I'm still getting me a Talon.
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You've gotta keep in mind that they're taking the price point of the lowest "high performance" range (mid-range) as all before have done, 'cos they fall into the price range of other card's territories, including the HD6850/6870 series. It'd be poor form for nVidia to release them much higher.

Power-wise it may compete with the 470, but range and territory-wise, it's folllowing the 260's and 460's, so will still be in the 150-200 quid price range.

They'll undoubtably OC well, how well from actual reference speeds we won't know until someone gets their hands on them. The 460's had brilliant OC's thanks to the disable unit's, however they've had time to refine the core so 950's for an OC is plausible.

OC editions and versions with great coolers or BIOS revisions won't be out for a while, soon as I get the dollar I'm still getting me a Talon.
true. I doubt I can wait for the custom cooler versions or pre-Oc cards so I think I will snap up the Talon too
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