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um.... go to the next benchmark.... lol

Crysis doesn't count... because it is designed to run on INTEL!!!!

Crysis is also only dual threaded
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The Phenom II X6's hang in there pretty good, I will give the X6 its due credit.
I am keeping my little 720 X3 for another backup midrange build, at 3.6Ghz it does ok.
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I'm not sure why people are still trying to say that AMD & Intel chips are equal, when clearly they are not, and that is the source of the OP's frustration here.

If you guys knew more history of the OP, he loved AMD dearly and stuck up for AMD in several threads, and now is disappointed in the performance from what is supposed to be one of their best chips. He didn't start this thread as "flame bait" or anything.

Honestly, I'd be upset too.

I think that maybe your mobo and ram are holding you back a bit, and unless we get more numbers from more people we won't know for sure, there's gotta be more to the story.
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i could do a test... but it would be with a 480..... since i don't have a 470...

is there a clock that i can set it to to test this???

so that a 480 performs about the same as a 470?
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The only thing that I see holding the Mafia 2 scores back is programing. It looks like it's using essentially 4 cores spread amongst the 6. Of course the i7 will beat it when clock for clock the i7 is superior. I'm sure if these benchmarks utilized all cores, your 6 would come close to match the i7's 4 (+4 hyperthreaded remember).

The pain about all of this benching is that there are few that utilize all the cores on the CPU - this leads you to think that the sum of your 6 core is inferior to a 4 core, which it is nearly by only a few percentages.
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i could do a test... but it would be with a 480..... since i don't have a 470...

is there a clock that i can set it to to test this???

so that a 480 performs about the same as a 470?
Thanks.

Yea, you can do it with a single 480 at stock.

a 470 @ 800-1600-1800 is close to if not 480 stock performance, so our GPU scores should be fairly close.
Edited by 2010rig - 12/21/10 at 7:10pm
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The Phenom II X4 970 and X4 965 are still the best bang for the buck CPU-wise. It is the Phenom 6 Cores that are the joke. They have nearly identical core architecture, but run slower and since software doesn't use more than three, or at the most four cores, the additional cores are basically wasted. And the "Turbo" is just a dumb idea. The chip should run at the speed you paid for.

I seriously thought about upgrading my entire system around the Phenom 1090T, but all of the benchmarks I found pretty much demonstrated that it was superior to the Phenom II 965 in only one practical respect: making AMD more money. The only situation where it would beat the chip I've got (Phenom II 965, not Phenom 9750) is in encoding movies.
can you show me any benchmark on yoru 965? im curious to see if you can beat mine. =) i know it beat my 965 clocked at 4.2ghz. my 965 memory controller wasnt as strong as the 1090t. cpu-nb was alot higher as well too. the phenom 965 cpu-nb was at 2800ghz max...where as my 1090t max is at 3200ghz. i couuldnt even run my rams pass 1750 for the 965 as well too but for the 1090t, i was able to do 2000mhz.
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I've seen many reviews saying the Phenom IIs are good for gaming including one of the oldest and most respected tomshardware.com are these reviews not correct? How can one site get such different results to another? One thing I've noticed is some of these tests use different ram and only use games optimized for Intel CPUs and are dubious at best. Finally I'm not an AMD fanboy I've had many Intel CPUs just trying to be as objective and logical as possible.
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Wow. I guess everyone just skipped my prior post. Oh well, have fun complaining. Or better yet, give your hardware to some one who would appreciate it. Namely me.
     
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Wow. I guess everyone just skipped my prior post. Oh well, have fun complaining. Or better yet, give your hardware to some one who would appreciate it. Namely me.
I didn't skip your post, check out my posts.

I think that your post may have a lot of validity to what's going on here.

But, how do we "prove it"? Where are you getting that info from?

Plus, in professional applications, the i7's still do outperform their AMD counterparts, and I highly doubt that software developers also optimized for Intel, and downclock AMD. ( I still find this hard to believe )
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