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lets not forget that the 950 costs $200 as well. even used i7's can be had for $225 if you dont have a microcenter. that is damn competetive pricing IMO.

and the boards are close to the same cost as well. gigabyte 890FX = ~$175 something like an X58-UD3R ~$185

and honestly 6GB of DDR3 is no more than like $75 these days so the price argument is not available here, sorry to tell you past price/performance kings.
Actually, if you're gonna talk about good deals, I got my 1055T for $110 on launch day. I got my 890gx motherboard for $110 as well, at about the same time. So together, my motherboard and CPU cost almost the same as an i7.

Not everyone has a microcenter nearby
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^ fraps (AK-47)

Because the only prices that matter are those available to the general public.

Otherwise you could use prices from the Intel Retail Edge program, in which case you just overpaid grossly for your 950 because you can get 970 for $215.

I'm not here citing his SSD or the general fact that his build probably cost him twice as much if not more, I'm not here to play those games.
It's stuff like this that causes conflict with you.

My sister works at Future Shop and she has to sell a TON of laptops, and I mean a TON before she can cash in enough "chips" in order to get that 970 deal. She's been working on it for months, and she still doesn't have enough chips to get it yet.

So, not just anyone can get a 970 for $215 as easily as you make it sound. First, they must work for a retailer that sells Intel products, and then they have to sell a lot of product to earn those chips.

But it's a lot easier for someone to get an i7 950 from Microcenter for $200, they can ask someone to buy it for them if they don't live near one, or simply buying a used one. With the mobo, you can go with a Sabertooth for $200, or a UD3R, and the Ram can be in the $100 range.

That's CPU/MOBO/RAM for about $500.

If you really want to save even more, you can always get an open box motherboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...rboard&x=0&y=0

I know, I know, but if it doesn't work out, just return it to NewEgg, but if it does work out, those savings can add up.

Point is, if you get creative, you can build an i7 system that doesn't have to cost an arm and a leg. I may be doing a 2nd build with the goal being under 1k that will be mostly made up of used parts or jumping on deals as they come. But we'll see what Sandy Bridge is saying first.

Now, let's get back on topic.
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Actually, if you're gonna talk about good deals, I got my 1055T for $110 on launch day. I got my 890gx motherboard for $110 as well, at about the same time. So together, my motherboard and CPU cost almost the same as an i7.

Not everyone has a microcenter nearby
But as we're discussing, they don't perform on par as an i7 ( just sayin' )

Sometimes less is more, but not in this case.

It sucks that Intel did that tbh, and I don't really know enough on the topic to comment, but from the little I read, I will say this ( and this may sound ignorant and I declare this ahead of time ) but it is Intel's compiler is it not? Intel isn't obligated to optimize their code for competing processors. Why doesn't AMD provide their own compiler for computer programs to be written on instead of using Intel's?

AMD isn't a saint either...

Not to get off topic or anything, but AMD does the same thing to Nvidia in a lot of AMD boards not supporting SLI. So a lot of people who have an AMD processor with an AMD board that only supports Crossfire, they won't consider Nvidia as an option since SLI isn't supported.

Once again, just sayin' - not trying to start a debate about it.

When you're a multi-billion dollar company like Intel & AMD are, you will do anything you can to get an edge over your competition. I'm not saying it's right, but it is what it is, and Intel paid $1.25 Billion to AMD because of it, maybe they should hire some programmers and start writing their own libraries that are optimized for their processors, I guarantee you they wouldn't be optimized for Intel processors.

And, just look at AMD vs Nvidia, both those companies will do everything they can to gain that market share over their competition. Both companies have done things in one way or another to outdo the other.

I can go on and on, but you guys get the point.
Edited by 2010rig - 12/21/10 at 9:27pm
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eh.. never mind
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Err....Ima go play my benchmark now.
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i rofl @ noobs that base their assessment of pc hardware on non-industry standard,
closed source, you aint got a clue about the source-code bentmarks.

bentmarks, bentmarks, bentmarks.

merry bentmarks everyone.
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Balla are you new to PC hardware? Because NEWSFLASH! THIS JUST IN! AMD CPU's haven't benched as high as their Intel competitors since.....2006!

Honestly the rest of your setup is quite lacking. You need a better motherboard, RAM, and most importantly an SSD. Your CPU is literally in hibernation 99% of the time while your tortoise-like mechanical HDD's attempt to cough up the data the CPU requests.
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Originally Posted by FlawleZ View Post
Balla are you new to PC hardware? Because NEWSFLASH! THIS JUST IN! AMD CPU's haven't benched as high as their Intel competitors since.....2006!

Honestly the rest of your setup is quite lacking. You need a better motherboard, RAM, and most importantly an SSD. Your CPU is literally in hibernation 99% of the time while your tortoise-like mechanical HDD's attempt to cough up the data the CPU requests.
Lots of RAM help the HDD lag alot!!!..

EDIT:

Just did the Mafia 2 benchmark myself at stock clock for the 480.. with SLI disabled ofcourse

Pics:




Edited by hodgoes2001 - 12/22/10 at 12:21am
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hmmm ... interesting results, they're pretty consistent with what he got.

I wonder if my bench is correct? I did run it 3 times with those settings.

Any i7 user want to run the Mafia 2 benchmark so we can get a 2nd opinion.
Edited by 2010rig - 12/22/10 at 12:30am
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