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This maybe a bit off topic but I've been building my own systems and gaming since '96. I've had Intel, Cyrix, AMD, Nvidia, ATI. With today's quad core+ CPUs at 3GHz+ and 1GB+ graphics cards if a game runs poorly it's bad unoptimized programming. If a game fully utilizes 4 or 6 cores and the video card fully, the results can be mind blowing near photo-realistic gaming. No amount of GTX580s can make up for bad sloppy programming.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KittensMewMew View Post
I heard Running a 1090T on a 790X motherboard with DDR2 is a silly idea.

Confirm/Deny?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128387

Seriously?

Why would it be silly?


Anyways, 2010rig I ran Heaven with your settings both the test and gpu (850/1700/1750).

Results aren't 50% slower, but it is irking me that gpu load will not hit 99% though out almost the entire test.

I think you scored 1042.
    
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Originally Posted by Raven Dizzle View Post
There's an old saying:


I like that saying. I made a conscious choice when I chose my AMD system to game on and i7 920 system for my workhorse (albeit, both use ATI cards), and I'm sticking with my choice. So basically, if you splooge yourself looking at benchmarks all day, yes, you should upgrade. However, otherwise....grow up lol.
Thats interesting.

Unfortunately, i7's do crush Phenom II's.
I love my 720 X3....great CPU, but nothing like this 930.
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Dear AMD,

I hate your single thread performance, please try harder. Please also note that six sub par threads isn't the answer. I was happy to hear that you were going with a new architecture this time around. I hope suing INTEL and obtaining financial gain and creative freedom has allowed you to bring something better as we need a competitive market to drive up advancement and drive down prices. Though you did not cost me an arm, nor a leg, I must say more is needed at the same price range. I look forward to future purchases of your products, however the K10 architecture should have died with the terrible Phenom and never to see light again.
The Phenom II X4 970 and X4 965 are still the best bang for the buck CPU-wise. It is the Phenom 6 Cores that are the joke. They have nearly identical core architecture, but run slower and since software doesn't use more than three, or at the most four cores, the additional cores are basically wasted. And the "Turbo" is just a dumb idea. The chip should run at the speed you paid for.

I seriously thought about upgrading my entire system around the Phenom 1090T, but all of the benchmarks I found pretty much demonstrated that it was superior to the Phenom II 965 in only one practical respect: making AMD more money. The only situation where it would beat the chip I've got (Phenom II 965, not Phenom 9750) is in encoding movies.
    
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Unfortunately, i7's do crush Phenom II's.
The slowest i7's (920) at stock run about even with the fastest Phenom II's at stock.

And the Phenom II's are generally cheaper. So, it depends on the price point.
    
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Did you say the x6 chips are slower than the x4 chips?

You mean aside from the higher core clocks, higher nb clocks, and thus faster L3 right?

You are looking at stock, and it's a poor way to shop really.

If this build didn't start out as a budget built for an elderly lady I'd have done some things differently.
    
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"With rapidly-increasing prices over $200 offering smaller and smaller performance boosts in games, we have a hard time recommending anything more expensive than the Core i5-760. This is especially the case since the Core i5-760 can be overclocked to great effect if more performance is desired, easily surpassing the stock clock rate of the $1,000 Core i7-980X Extreme Edition." tomshardware.com
The i7 series isn't necessary for gaming, if you use it for some professional applications there can be a benefit however. For gaming the X6s are slightly slower than the X4s probably due to the slightly lower clock speeds.
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Thats a really good cpu score.
     
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Let me know when your 965 hits 4.450MHz, with a 3.25MHz NB.

Then we can talk about how the reason I'm 50% slower in Mafia II, and about 5% slower in Heaven is because I have a 1090T clocked higher than your 965 which is superior in every way except in actuality.
    
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http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/17...ce/index7.html

http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/17...e/index10.html

Vantage, huh, looks like +100-200 with DDR3? Well I guess DDR2 is OK if you don't fantasize about benchmarks... wait. That's what this thread is about! Oh, and those are very early DDR3 results with DDR3 1333, so, you can make your conclusions from there on how much of a boost DDR3 2000 would give you.

As for your motherboard, the 790X is an older chipset not optimized for the newer X6s. Try putting your CPU where it belongs. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...-ud7,2640.html
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