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Better than Diskeeper?
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This is the last place on Earth that i would expect people to be advising people to not defrag their HDDs..... I would expect that on a forum for computer "*******", but not on a computer enthusiest forum where nearly everyone strives to achieve the best performace out of their PCs.
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This is the last place on Earth that i would expect people to be advising people to not defrag their HDDs..... I would expect that on a forum for computer "*******", but not on a computer enthusiest forum where nearly everyone strives to achieve the best performace out of their PCs.
You selling something?

Look at Duckie's link. Vista's (and 7) defragger is more than adequate. We throw money around on OCN, but not snake oil defrag utilities that aren't as good as leaving it alone entirely.
    
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It is not worth your time or money. Have you objective proven there is a gain?

What's the benefit? Little to nothing.
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/the...rag_difference
Interesting, thanks
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Wow, lots of crying here.

IIRC, Defraggler uses the Windows defrag API, but has a lot of nice options and a better interface. So... what's the problem? Lots of you guys are getting ragers for no reason.
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If defragmenters were useless, why does ext4 include an online defragmenter where as ext3 did not? Why was there a need to include a defragmenter if it was useless?

Fragmentation aside, thousands of files within a directory will still make a mechanical hard drive crawl to its knees on NTFS.
Defragmenting is not useless.... paying for defragmenting or even worry about defragmentation is waste of energy for most.



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This is the last place on Earth that i would expect people to be advising people to not defrag their HDDs..... I would expect that on a forum for computer "*******", but not on a computer enthusiest forum where nearly everyone strives to achieve the best performace out of their PCs.
There are much much much better ways to do so.

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Wow, lots of crying here.

IIRC, Defraggler uses the Windows defrag API, but has a lot of nice options and a better interface. So... what's the problem? Lots of you guys are getting ragers for no reason.
So it basically is just a GUI for the stock Windows defrag?

Command line FTW.
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So it basically is just a GUI for the stock Windows defrag?

Command line FTW.
Even though I use Linux and AIX4 in the workplace, I am not a CLI-elitist. It's a nicer front-end, has a handful of useful options, and it's free to boot. What's not to like?

Of course, this is OCN, the home of technological dissent on the interweb.
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I feel I should clarify some of the previous posts.

1) Yes, defragging is very much useful.

2) No, modern file systems are NOT fragment proof.

3) Windows has a built in automatic defragger. It works fine.

4) Defraggler (and the majority of other defraggers) doesn't do much that the built in defragger doesn't. This is because they are based on the windows defragger.

Now, a defragger thats not based on the windows defragger MIGHT be useful if you know what you are doing and have a very specific reason to use it, but in all likelyhood you will do more harm than good, or at the very least just be wasting time.

Theres also the fact that the windows defragger runs on a ridged schedule and if your computer isnt left on and unattended on a regular schedule, you are either looking at skipped defrags or system slow downs while its defragging. You could just disable automatic defrag at that point though and tell the windows defrag to work manually. You dont get any kind of indicator of what its actually doing or how much time is left though so if you need that kind of information a third party defrag might be useful.
Edited by Zero4549 - 12/22/10 at 2:26pm
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Hm interesting
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Theres also the fact that the windows defragger runs on a ridged schedule and if your computer isnt left on and unattended on a regular schedule, you are either looking at skipped defrags or system slow downs while its defragging. You could just disable automatic defrag at that point though and tell the windows defrag to work manually. You dont get any kind of indicator of what its actually doing or how much time is left though so if you need that kind of information a third party defrag might be useful.
This. And some of us have the OS on an SSD but our files are stored on a seperate HDD.

I don't need to have scheduled defrags interfering with large file transfers or streaming raw FRAPS footage (1920x1200 60fps).

When I do defrag in my downtime, it's nice to have some sort of status window. Ya know, so you can see what's going on and when it might be done?
 
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