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hello overclock nation....

noob here, so i will give a quick rundown of what im trying to accomplish.

first off, i just built the computer in my sig. this is the first pc i have ever built, so i may not have picked out the best combinations of equipment. that being said, im going to use what i got and try to get the most out of it

i have been using this pc for the last few weeks and everything seems to run great, but i havent really used it for anything yet besides some surfing and downloading.

ive been told that my cpu will severely bottleneck my gpu's. this made me decide i should try to get a little more performance out of my cpu if possible. i didnt want to try to overclock with stock cooler, so i purcased the hyper 212+ and installed it. i have never overclocked this system, or anything for that matter...so i am completely new to this. im not looking to squeeze every last drop and stress my equipment. but i would like to get the most i can out of this pc in an equipment safe manner.

got a few questions to start off with - if anyone would be kind enough to lend a hand, i would greatly appreciate it. unfortunately all i can offer, is a thank you.

1. is prime95 best program i can run to put a heavy load on cpu so that i can see how high the temps climb?

2. i have prime95 installed, but im not sure what exactly to run in that program to put a load on the cpu? and how long should i let "said" test run to get to max temp?

3. what should my idle and load temps be at?

if you guys could help with that info to start, i will run these tests and give results.

thank you if anyone can help
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post #2 of 6
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1. is prime95 best program i can run to put a heavy load on cpu so that i can see how high the temps climb?
It is the program I prefer for stress tests, the longer the test the better

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2. i have prime95 installed, but im not sure what exactly to run in that program to put a load on the cpu? and how long should i let "said" test run to get to max temp?
Use the blend test, it tests both cpu and memory. You want memory tested when overclocking, it helps ensure whole-system stability

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3. what should my idle and load temps be at?
Idle depends on your ambient temps, butanywhere from 20-40c is normal depending on your cpu cooling solution and case cooling. Load temps depend on your cpu. With the 955BE (i have the same, but C2), no more the 55c under load is ideal and of course lower is better


I have the same cooler and the earlier version of your chip. I am finding 3.7 to 3.8 possible with some work and many adjustments. If you want a simple but stable overclock, just up your multiplier to 18 keeping your bus speed at 200 and your voltage on auto, that will give you 3.6ghz on your cpu which should be entirely stable.

You can then try to up your cpu-nb to 2600mhz, though this may require a small cpu-nb voltage increase.

Before you do anything, get HW-Monitor to regulate your system temps. Cpu-z is a good program to have too.
Edited by stonedzen - 12/21/10 at 5:44pm
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i ran the tests on my cpu temps -

@ idle was 28c

@ load with prime95 running blend test for 25 minutes was 41c. (i used 3 different cpu temp monitoring programs and they all read same give or take 1 or 2 digrees at different times during test. also, when i started prime95, the temps went to 41c within 5 minutes and stayed at that temp for the rest of the duration of the test).

from what i gather, those temps are fine. that being said, i think i should be able to overclock the cpu.
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you wanna keep the cpu under 55c. the max is 62c. keep this in mind when overclocking it.
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once i successfully overclock the cpu...do i also have to overclock my memory?
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once i successfully overclock the cpu...do i also have to overclock my memory?
You dont have to, but you can. Since I upgraded to ddr3 1600 I dont notice a significant gain when overclocking memory. All I have gotten is blue screens.

I have heard that AMD platforms benefit more from tightened timings than they do from an increase in processing speed. Your RAM has two variations of CAS Latency timings, do you know if yours is 7 or 8? If so, I may be able to help you overclock you RAM
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