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How about this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galvani..._compatibility

Where mixing block made of copper and/or rad(s) made of brass and/or killthingie made of silver and/or other fancy stuff made of aluminium finally brings corrosion in. Then to counter this corrosion, people put anti corrosion in their coolant, or even worse, use ready made flashy fluo coolant "with anti corrosion in it".

With silver from that killthingie (0.15) and brass from rad (0.40), we're over the limit of 0.15 given in this wiki...

Personally, I prefer going the "distilled water + home-made 'PT Nuke'" road, period.
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I would like to address the Silver tarnish issue.

prior to the industrial revolution Silver did not tarnish like it does today
Sulfur Dioxide is the main culprit for Silver tarnish and prior to the industrial rev. it was almost nonexistent in our atmosphere.

I tried to find the article I read years ago about this but I guess it never made it to the net (it was a very long time ago)

this was the best I could do (for now)

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post #34 of 41
My mom owns a jewelry plating generator that she uses to make colloidal silver. She can make about a gallon at a time for the cost of a few cents plus some distilled water. Using colloidal silver as coolant could be extremely economical-- toss in a few drops of food dye, and you can even add some color to your loop. This will definitely be weighed with my decision for whether or not to do a custom loop, because the long term cost of coolant was a concern of mine, especially since you have to drain it any time you want to modify the loop.

Colloidal Silver does lose its effectiveness when exposed to sunlight after a long time, but considering how cheap you can make the stuff, it's not much of an issue to replace it once a year. Not to mention that if you are using colored tubes, the light decay becomes even less of an issue. My mom stores her colloidal silver in blue bottles and it keeps just fine.
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How about this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galvanic_corrosion#Galvanic_compatibility

Where mixing block made of copper and/or rad(s) made of brass and/or killthingie made of silver and/or other fancy stuff made of aluminium finally brings corrosion in. Then to counter this corrosion, people put anti corrosion in their coolant, or even worse, use ready made flashy fluo coolant "with anti corrosion in it".

With silver from that killthingie (0.15) and brass from rad (0.40), we're over the limit of 0.15 given in this wiki...

Personally, I prefer going the "distilled water + home-made 'PT Nuke'" road, period.
What is this "PT nuke", and how does one make it? Pre made coolant seems absurdly overpriced and I'd certainly like to know what other homemade options there are.
post #36 of 41
I'd probably stick to distilled water. Introducing this into brass/copper radiators/fittings and possible lead/tin solder modified radiator is just dangerous.
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For galvanic corrosion to happen, a conductive liquid between metals is needed. All liquids become conductive with time, but using silver or colloidal silver means that you have an extremely conductive medium, because silver ionizes water making it very very conductive.

So, with silver you just put all the ingredients at maximum rate for galvanic corrosion to happen.

Me personally, I'll never, ever, would even think in using silver in my system. Not only because what I have already said about galvanic corrosion and that it is heavily ill-advised by every single water cooling brand out there, but because a drop leaking is sure short circuit and hardware destroyed. With premix or even distilled water, I've had and seen leaks and nothing got destroyed.

There are many ways to make distilled water safe for both corrosion and microbials. Just an example, adding Mayhems XT-1 (or any other concentrate).
post #38 of 41
Surely it's better to keep it in the res rather then floating around your loop running rhough your blocks and pump..
Isn't that the point of a silver coil?
 
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post #39 of 41
No matter where you put the silver coil. In a few days it is going to ionize ALL the water in the system, making it highly conductive.

So, silver coil = ions floating around your loop running rhough your blocks and pump.
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No matter where you put the silver coil. In a few days it is going to ionize ALL the water in the system, making it highly conductive.

So, silver coil = ions floating around your loop running rhough your blocks and pump.

Yeah alright, I'm not really a science kind of guy. Well I am but I don't know much about molecules, ions etc.
Thanks for the explanation though. smile.gif
 
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