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Ok, so I have an MSDN key for Windows Server 2008 (not R2) Standard x64 that I want to use at work. SO we get a spare PC put together with the following specs:

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The small building is wired up with a DSL modem going to a wireless router (currently handling DHCP and static IP's) going to a 16-port gigabit switch, then to a patch panel which goes to ethernet ports in various rooms. We got that all figured out and only have the ports wired up that we want. Everyone has internet, and all is good so far. Right now we only have a few employees with only 4 computers that we need to handle.

So we get the OS loaded up, get all the updates installed plus SP2, and then start adding roles, ADDS first, as from what we can tell it's where we need to start.

My boss turns to me during the setup wizard with a blank ***? look and I say "Dude, I'm hardware."

So we're trying to get this crap figured out, and here's what we want to do with it:

-- DHCP Server for internal IP distribution

-- Firewall plus the ability to filter internet sites and content (like porn and Facebook...proxy server???)

-- File server for hosting Quickbooks, backups/system images, spreadsheets, access databases, etc etc. It would be nice to give everyone their own little drive/folder/whatever so that we can install only the necessary apps on their end and lock down their computers with permissions to access those apps plus what they have on the server.

-- Printer/fax/email server

-- Remote access from an iPhone, home PC, etc etc.

Eventually we would like to even host our own website, but it's pretty basic right now and we have hosting for that and email. However, we'd rather handle email internally, as our host's email servers can be finicky.

Soooo, we've been scratching our heads since Friday evening (I have over 30 hours of overtime now lol) trying to figure this out, and to be completely honest we have no idea what the hell we're doing. He bought a Windows Server 2008 book that's SUPER thick and another ADDS book that's just as thick, and it's all Greek to us. He has an electronics engineering background with some software/programming, and I have very basic software/programming knowledge along with hardware and basic networking (mostly file sharing at home and setting up basic wireless networks).

Can someone please tell us where we can get some info, or what we need to do, or at least if we're just way in over our heads and probably need to give up or hire somebody lol?
     
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Ok, I'll try to help as best I can

For a DHCP server I'm almost positive you need a domain of some sort whether it be internal or external. Each computer will have to join that domain and authenticate. Some people have boxes dedicated to domain controlling but I don't think it's a must. You are also going to need to setup some sort of DNS server. You could always use OpenDNS. If you use openDNS they have something to let you block the websites
Here's a link to setup the DHCP
http://www.windowsreference.com/windows-server-2008/how-to-setup-dhcp-server-in-windows-server-2008-step-by-step-guide/

What do you want the firewall for? Server or all the boxes in the office. If you just want it on the server then use windows firewall. If you want it on all the boxes then I recommend a hardware firewall

The file server, this is a little out of my realm of knowledge. Since you will setup a domain controller each use has to be added to that and authenticated on the network. You then setup access permissions for each user on the domain controller. Again beyond that I don't know what can be done.

Print server is simple, get printers with built in networking biggrin.gif
Email it'd be best to use exchange
Never heard of a fax server but I'm sure there's something along those lines

Remote access to the server or to the users computer?

That should get you on the right track, I'll try to answer any other questions you may have


Edit---

Whopps didn't know ADDS was the domain service now smile.gif I'm a linux dude, so your on the right direction biggrin.gif

Here's a nice technet article on adding users and setting up permissions
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb727067.aspx
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Ok, I'll try to help as best I can

For a DHCP server I'm almost positive you need a domain of some sort whether it be internal or external. Each computer will have to join that domain and authenticate. Some people have boxes dedicated to domain controlling but I don't think it's a must. You are also going to need to setup some sort of DNS server. You could always use OpenDNS. If you use openDNS they have something to let you block the websites
Here's a link to setup the DHCP
http://www.windowsreference.com/windows-server-2008/how-to-setup-dhcp-server-in-windows-server-2008-step-by-step-guide/

I'll look into OpenDNS and see if that's something we need. We do want to create a domain that all the computers in our office can join (only 4 so far). The problem is we are having trouble understanding exactly what to call our domain or where to start. I will look at the links and maybe there are some examples we can follow.
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What do you want the firewall for? Server or all the boxes in the office. If you just want it on the server then use windows firewall. If you want it on all the boxes then I recommend a hardware firewall.

I just threw that in there as a possibility. We basically just want our network to be secure. I know the modem has a built-in firewall of sorts, and I'm sure the router does as well, and then we have Windows firewall. Is this secure enough to protect against the basics? He really doesn't want to spend that much money on a hardware firewall.
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Originally Posted by SS_Patrick;11734852 
The file server, this is a little out of my realm of knowledge. Since you will setup a domain controller each use has to be added to that and authenticated on the network. You then setup access permissions for each user on the domain controller. Again beyond that I don't know what can be done.

Yeah we know that we have to setup some sort of domain, and then have the computers linked to the domain, and then setup users and permissions, but we don't know exactly HOW to do that lol. We're trying to browse through the OS, and it has become abundantly clear we need to do some more reading on that
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Print server is simple, get printers with built in networking biggrin.gif Email it'd be best to use exchange
Never heard of a fax server but I'm sure there's something along those lines

Yeah all the printers in our office have built-in ethernet, and we've already tested that out. I just threw it in there so you know it's there, and we saw it as a role/feature in 2K8. As for the rest, we will need to do some more research it seems.
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Remote access to the server or to the users computer?

Well, we really just want remote access to the server so that I can manage it, and we can access our company files from a computer at home or whatever. I don't think we need access to the individual computers as what we are trying to do is get all the computers in the office to just have basic apps installed and manage all the company files through the server.
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That should get you on the right track, I'll try to answer any other questions you may have


Edit---

Whopps didn't know ADDS was the domain service now smile.gif I'm a linux dude, so your on the right direction biggrin.gif

Here's a nice technet article on adding users and setting up permissions
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb727067.aspx
Thank you VERY much for the info you have provided so far Patrick. It has been a big help. We will look over the links and try to figure out where to go from here and post back with other questions and results. Thanks again and +rep!
     
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