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Originally Posted by LingLing1337;11741272 
I have used Furry Letters many times when I was custom building audio cables. The heat shrink won't matter what brand you get, FurryLetters is an eBay seller and his products don't have any branding (it seems that he has a line on TechFlex' industrial supply.) He doesn't try to "pimp" his TechFlex or take fancy pictures, but you can find all the same colors to create effects like PsychoSleeve.

BTW I'm not sure what the "you know which one is better quality by the pictures" line is about? It's all made out of the same material, and the weave looks no different. If you're referring to the photography, then yes, MDPC-X has superior photoshop skills to FurryLetters.

That said, MDPC-X isn't that much more expensive than FL. But you will more than likely pay out the nose for shipping, as they appear to be based overseas.
Well the thing about that is that the Techflex PET sleeving is really see through vs the Clean Cut which is dense and not see through.

It's enough to definitely make a difference in prices. In fact, if i'm not mistaken, for the cost for 30m of black sleeving, 3m of heat shrink tubing, and shipping, you could another 100 feet of sleeving and 10 feet of heat shrink tubing from Barry and still have money left over.
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Originally Posted by KamuiRSX;11746439 
Well the thing about that is that the Techflex PET sleeving is really see through vs the Clean Cut which is dense and not see through.

It's enough to definitely make a difference in prices. In fact, if i'm not mistaken, for the cost for 30m of black sleeving, 3m of heat shrink tubing, and shipping, you could another 100 feet of sleeving and 10 feet of heat shrink tubing from Barry and still have money left over.

Correct me if I'm wrong, because I've never used FL, but don't they sell 3:1 heat shrink, and MDPC sells 4:1 heat shrink?
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Originally Posted by XNine;11750645 
Correct me if I'm wrong, because I've never used FL, but don't they sell 3:1 heat shrink, and MDPC sells 4:1 heat shrink?

well you do know you can buy heat shrink pretty much any where wall mart lowes home depot ace hardware.That really shouldnt be why you spend double the price on sleeving.
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post #14 of 18
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Originally Posted by robert125381;11752725 
well you do know you can buy heat shrink pretty much any where wall mart lowes home depot ace hardware.That really shouldnt be why you spend double the price on sleeving.

No, though quality does matter. In which case MDPC is the highest quality out there. I'm really eyeing their X-color sleeve.... Maybe Nils will send me a sample with my next order....
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Originally Posted by XNine;11750645 
Correct me if I'm wrong, because I've never used FL, but don't they sell 3:1 heat shrink, and MDPC sells 4:1 heat shrink?
Barry does sell 3:1 heat shrink tubing for $0.55 cents a foot at just shy of 3/16" which is just big enough to fit over the 1/8th Clean Cut sleeving and shrinks to a super tight fit on the wire. To be honest, 4:1 really isn't needed as even 2:1 will work but won't have as quite a good tight fit on the wire as 3:1.

MDPC does sell 4:1 heat shrink tubing. However, if you do want 4:1 heat shrink tubing, McMaster-Carr does sell 4:1 ratio tubing that's still cheaper than MDPC as well.
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Originally Posted by XNine;11758886 
No, though quality does matter. In which case MDPC is the highest quality out there. I'm really eyeing their X-color sleeve.... Maybe Nils will send me a sample with my next order....

That's debatable but it really should be that he sells the best quality colored sleeving out there. With the Techflex Clean Cut being such a great competitor to the MDPC black sleeving, it's really not the hands down best. At that point, it's just a matter of opinion.
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well you do know you can buy heat shrink pretty much any where wall mart lowes home depot ace hardware.That really shouldnt be why you spend double the price on sleeving.

The quality of the heat shrink tubing isn't in question as it's all made from the same stuff. What matters is the shrink ratio. To be honest, it's actually cheaper to call around to all the electrical supply places in your city and see if they have any 3:1 or 4:1 ratio heat shrink tubing for sale. I always try to recommend doing that because it's really cheap. I was able to get mine for $1.02 for 4 feet of heat shrink tubing from a local electrical supply company. Thankfully, they were willing to do business with the public but most of their business came from electricians and companies.

If you can't find them locally, Barry is pretty much the next step. He has a few colors as well. I know he has Black, Red, and White but I think he maybe has Blue as well now.

Now if you do want an alternative from 3:1 ratio tubing, 2:1 adhesive lined thin walled heat shrink tubing will work great as well.
Edited by KamuiRSX - 12/23/10 at 11:19pm
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post #16 of 18
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Originally Posted by KamuiRSX;11746439 
Well the thing about that is that the Techflex PET sleeving is really see through vs the Clean Cut which is dense and not see through.

I suppose I see what you mean... In the audio community it is desirable to be able to see the hue of the cable through the TF. Since cable comes in so many colors it was easy to create some really badass looking effects on the cheap. Really the color seems to "shimmer" through more than look like hatchwork or something.

That is pretty cool I guess... I'll keep this in mind next time I need some opaque techflex.

EDIT: For anyone who cares... this site has some different patterns of tf-type braided sleeving under the brand name Furez. I've used a little bit before and it's cool-looking stuff.
Edited by LingLing1337 - 12/26/10 at 3:34pm
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Just to chime in, the quality of the heatshrink matters much more than you'd think.

Even if you could get 4:1 shrink with the cheap heatshrink, it wouldn't come in a matching color for colored sleeving, and it doesn't have the thin wall that MDPC-X has. The thin wall is important in computer wiring since the shrink has to go inside the ATX connector for a better look, which is difficult if not impossible with the usual thick wall of other heatshrink.

2:1 IMO is not good enough because it will be too easy to accidentally pull the sleeve off.

Can't forget about the pre-cut shrink available too, which makes it so much easier to do.
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Originally Posted by MijnWraak;11786100 
Just to chime in, the quality of the heatshrink matters much more than you'd think.

Even if you could get 4:1 shrink with the cheap heatshrink, it wouldn't come in a matching color for colored sleeving, and it doesn't have the thin wall that MDPC-X has. The thin wall is important in computer wiring since the shrink has to go inside the ATX connector for a better look, which is difficult if not impossible with the usual thick wall of other heatshrink.

2:1 IMO is not good enough because it will be too easy to accidentally pull the sleeve off.

Can't forget about the pre-cut shrink available too, which makes it so much easier to do.

Technically speaking, fully shrunk 3/16th 2:1 heat shrink tubing wouldn't be pulled off the sleeving. In fact, you have a better chance of it slipping on the wires. The simple reason is because when dealing with the Techflex Clean Cut sleeving, the 3/16th heat shrink tubing fits just on top of the sleeving so it shrinks to a nice snug fit. 2:1 actually works pretty good but 3:1 3/16th is all you'll ever need.

Again, when dealing with Techflex Clean Cut sleeving and normal wire gauge from your PSU, 2:1 works fine so 3:1 is just a even tighter fit that you won't have to worry about pulling away the shrink on the wire. 4:1 won't give you any better shrink than 3:1 because you can't shrink through the wires. You can only shrink to conform to the contour of what's under the heat shrink tubing.
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