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MAJOR UPDATE FROM SENATOR

This was posted on the net @ 11:36PM 12/23/2010
http://www.wilsoncountynews.com/arti...s-the-internet
U.S. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison
December 23, 2010 | Comment on this blog entry
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What does any of that have to do with pay-per-GB? I am not disagreeing that shady deals are going on that benefit the big business (and those shady FCC committee members) and stifle access to the net, but all of the stuff in that blog was still addressing the "relieving congestion by throttling" (or blocking specific protocols to prevent certain actions...). None of that addressed the pay-per-GB issue at hand. None of that dooms us to paying per GB, nor does it imply that paying per GB will be bad.

Smart ISP's would maintain the current service/pricing. Just because ISP's *can* charge per GB of use doesn't mean that all or any *will* charge per GB of use. I'd be willing to bet that 95% of internet users in the US don't use even 10GB per month (yes, I'm well aware of the responses people on this forum will have to that, showing their 300GB of use over the course of this month, but many people on this forum are far from average computer users). I can see that usage limit going up as we steer away from TV and more toward streaming media (that's already happening). I'm not at all supporting a pay-per-GB option, but unless ISP's are paying each other off to take the same stance nation-wide, this just won't work if other ISP's go against this and don't take on the pricing option. It will suck in areas where basically only one ISP is available though...

Anyhoo, I couldn't care less about this from the standpoint of that I don't use much in the way of bandwidth in a month (1.5mbps ftl). I DO care about the repercussions this will have for future "regulation" of the internet by service providers...service providers that haven't done much to open up the technology available that would advance the internet, yet have netted more profit in the last year than they ever have, and then hide behind their sub-par networks as excuses to charge more for internet access.
    
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I mainly didn't wanna make another thread and annoy OCN.

So we are facing 3 issues now
A quote "portal" our data will be moving though.
Slowed data transfers of larger files to deal with the network's "congestion's"
The Fcc Recommending the ISPs to charge for extra bandwidth.
Like they do in New Zealand, Australia, Canada, and some places in Africa.

I want to say ABSOLUTELY non of this is a conspiracy, as you can see by the senators article.

I urge everyone to be actively searching Google for what the FCC does next. Iam sure we will be seeing more stuff from the press today on these issues.

You will also be hearing alot about this on Cnn, Foxs news, etc
as i said before we are gonna see a huge battle over this. Iam just paying more attention than most people. This is just the tip of the ice berg and should be a wake up call for people to actively get involved and protect our current internet.
Edited by finalturismo - 12/23/10 at 1:58pm
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Well, I've been telling everyone this is where it's going to go, and even why.

Why?

1) It makes pirates pay for downloading!
2) Corporations want more money!
3) It's to fight Netflix & other Movie / Large Video File Streaming. (This can kill internet bandwidth bad)

They will probably want to make people pay more for using YouTube & any Movie File Web Site. I think they will even go as far to make people pay even much more for P2P & Torrents! Where this is really ridiculous is Web Hosting, or even Game Hosting, so games like World of Warcraft, Battlefield, or Neverwinter Nights may be very expensive indeed to play or especially host, or even worse, browser games! (Crime Craft / Farmville / etc.)

So now we know they are moving full forward with this, but the FCC was warned by congress that there would be reprocussion & it would be fought against, highly.

Either in the end congress will outlaw restricting services & charging fees / MB, or they are going to leave the Internet alone, and let the ISPs (Corps) regulate how they want to charge (unfairly or not).

Ultimately, I think which ever ISP doesn't do this to their clients will eliminate those who do choose to charge / MB downloaded. Therefore, some private organization will win against the big corps, kind of like how Ubuntu is winning against Micro$oft...

Furthermore, this whole concept of capped internet & charging / MB would pretty much kill the idea of cloud computing, seriously...
Edited by _GTech - 12/23/10 at 2:26pm
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tell me about it. i've hit 15GB just between the day before yesterday and yesterday. (The Witcher, Bioshock 2, Battlefield Bad Company 2)

this sucks., why not upgrade their networks? i can understand it's expensive, but if it is what gets you money, then surely.

what do they expect will happen 5, 10 years down the line when HD video becomes mainstream and you have bigger demands on web traffic?

i hope this doesn't happen....
Who cares if it's expensive. They're in the business of providing internet service. They can't keep selling new accounts unless they're willing to upgrade the infrastructure. It's disgusting that instead of upgrading the lines, they're looking to limit people. All the while the technology industry is moving towards more and more data consumption.

I know Americans hate government intervention, but by christ does someone need to step in and FORCE them to spend the money on the lines instead of trying to scam people.
    
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Ultimately, I think which ever ISP doesn't do this to their clients will eliminate those who do choose to charge / MB downloaded. Therefore, some private organization will win against the big corps, kind of like how Ubuntu is winning against Micro$oft...
Ubuntu is winning against Microsoft? Hardly...
    
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tell me about it. i've hit 15GB just between the day before yesterday and yesterday. (The Witcher, Bioshock 2, Battlefield Bad Company 2)

this sucks., why not upgrade their networks? i can understand it's expensive, but if it is what gets you money, then surely.

what do they expect will happen 5, 10 years down the line when HD video becomes mainstream and you have bigger demands on web traffic?

i hope this doesn't happen....
This is nothing more than an excuse to rape us even further.

I wonder if Granny will be paying $2.99 a month for her 5 minutes of email checking a day.

Doubt it. Sorry granny we have a base rate of $59.95 a month. All these other suckers are paying that plus $19.95 a GB, so feel lucky.
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I do agree that the users downloaded terabytes per month should be limited or punished unless they are on a business class or similar plan. As for the other people using Netflix, Xbox Live, Playstation Network, etc, they shouldn't have to change anything.

I don't know how many GB's I use per month, but I know it's probably more than the average user since I get most of my movies from Netflix streaming, and most of my music from Pandora and Youtube.
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People should be able to Max out their given connection speed 24/7 otherwise ISPs should not offer that speed.
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I sure hope Time Warner Roadrunner don't jump on this crap, since im already doing 200gb~ weekly.
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People should be able to Max out their given connection speed 24/7 otherwise ISPs should not offer that speed.
To do that you would have limit the amount of data everyone could use. Everyone can't use their current peak speeds all at once. The advertised numbers would have to go down... way down. That's really bad for advertising. Does not help stock holders in the end!

On a side note I COMPLETELY agree with you. Sadly it's just impossible.
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