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I honestly don't see why an ISP shouldn't have the right to charge per GB. You pay for power by the mW. Why not internet? Using more bandwidth costs an ISP more. Why can't they charge for it then?
    
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Originally Posted by Beric View Post
I honestly don't see why an ISP shouldn't have the right to charge per GB. You pay for power by the mW. Why not internet? Using more bandwidth costs an ISP more. Why can't they charge for it then?
But at the same time power companies don't charge a flat rate for everyone then tack on more if you go over the limit. You pay for what you use, which is not what these ISP's intend on doing. They want the flat rate + extra. It's plain and simple greed. Period.

This helps no one on either side because rising costs for consumers does not mean rising profits for companies.
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Solar energy does not provide wide profit margins. Costly cells, nothing to keep consuming such as fossil fuels. Makes it great for the consumers and horrible for the electric companies. Just like electric cars, i cant believe how stupid people are.

Thats why global warming is pushed down our throats
But real steps and innovations arnt taken to stop real CO2 output.
Instead they go around and cap companies on how much they can produce and if they want to produce more, guess what? they have to pay to consume more, which drives up consumer prices and give us less money to buy more goods for an effective economy. DUR DUR DUR
So keep buying the crap, enjoy your global taxes and a lowered standard of living
because you people deserve it.

This is meant to be a nation of workers, not a nation of thinkers.

Bet you people are so uneducated you don't even know who said that.



WHY DO YOU PEOPLE INSIST ON SUPPORTING THE CORPORATIONS RATHER THAN THE INDIVIDUAL.
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Edited by finalturismo - 12/28/10 at 7:26pm
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Originally Posted by finalturismo View Post
Solar energy does not provide wide profit margins. Costly cells, nothing to keep consuming such as fossil fuels. Makes it great for the consumers and horrible for the electric companies. Just like electric cars, i cant believe how stupid people are.

Thats why global warming is pushed down our throats
But real steps and innovations arnt taken to stop real CO2 output.
Instead they go around and cap companies on how much they can produce and if they want to produce more, guess what? they have to pay to consume more, which drives up consumer prices and give us less money to buy more goods for an effective economy. DUR DUR DUR
So keep buying the crap, enjoy your global taxes and a lowered standard of living
because you people deserve it.

This is meant to be a nation of workers, not a nation of thinkers.

Bet you people are so uneducated you don't even know who said that.



WHY DO YOU PEOPLE INSIST ON SUPPORTING THE CORPORATIONS RATHER THAN THE INDIVIDUAL.
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What you said has nothing to do with was stated. I provided an example of a infinite resource being charged via a consumption based method where no one I've heard of complains about. This article and what is being discussed is about a preposition for a service's (internet) pricing to possibly move to being consumption based instead of the current fixed rate. You respond with non sequiturs.
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Originally Posted by ItsEggrollTime View Post
Except it doesn't. The majority of electricity in the US comes from fossil fuels. Your electric bill is based on reality, not some renewable fantasy.
Whether it is widely used or not is irrelevant. It is still a situation where a resource is unlimited and is charged by consumption.
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Originally Posted by ItsEggrollTime View Post
And technically water, wind, and solar are finite. Climates change, as do solar cycles. Powering the grid through renewable energy will never be plausible until we figure out a way to deal with solar variation.
And technically internet bandwidth is finite. Eventually we would run out resources trying to construct an infinite amount of servers and fiber optic cables connecting them if we try to achieve more and more bandwidth. But that doesn't matter to the argument at hand.

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Originally Posted by KusH View Post
But at the same time power companies don't charge a flat rate for everyone then tack on more if you go over the limit. You pay for what you use, which is not what these ISP's intend on doing. They want the flat rate + extra. It's plain and simple greed. Period.

This helps no one on either side because rising costs for consumers does not mean rising profits for companies.
I (actually my parents) have to pay a flat rate for my landline in addition to the price that depends on how much we use the phone. And have you heard of trickle down economics or the "invisible hand?"-edit: sorry, I realized I read your last sentence too hastily. Although what it says still doesn't make sense, higher prices=more revenue= more profit, assuming that costs and demand stay the same), anyways this doesn't necessarily mean higher costs for consumers depending on the price per GB (which is unknown, lots of assumptions here).
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lol, wow that was not directed on you.
Now i get to blast you

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And technically internet bandwidth is finite. Eventually we would run out resources trying to construct an infinite amount of servers and fiber optic cables connecting them if we try to achieve more and more bandwidth. But that doesn't matter to the argument at hand.
1990s internet speed
compare it to 2010 internet speed.

Finite...... not even close.

Do some research on the future of fiber optics.

Go ahead and support some small group that makes enormous amounts of money and continue to take away from the group as a whole.

In fact if you demand more you get more....


World’s fastest fiber-optic cable can transfer 30TB of data in a sec
http://www.itechgiz.com/2010/05/worl...-data-in-a-sec

This will only double every year

O wait you live in California....
Most over taxed and bankrupted state.
Texas does not have an income tax and we do the best in the us because of people like me.
We support each other, we like money.


Sorry guys i had to.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by finalturismo View Post
lol, wow that was not directed on you.
Now i get to blast you



1990s internet speed
compare it to 2010 internet speed.

Finite...... not even close.

Do some research on the future of fiber optics.

Go ahead and support some small group that makes enormous amounts of money and continue to take away from the group as a whole.

In fact if you demand more you get more....





World’s fastest fiber-optic cable can transfer 30TB of data in a sec
http://www.itechgiz.com/2010/05/worl...-data-in-a-sec

This will only double every year

O wait you live in California....
Most over taxed and bankrupted state.
Texas does not have an income tax and we do the best in the us because of people like me.


heh nvm....
1. You mentioned solar energy. I was the 1st person to bring that up.
2. Read what I wrote and the person I replied to about internet bandwidth being infinite again.
3. Correlation does not imply causation. Anyways where I live is completely unrelated.
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I know iam just being an ass. Nothing personal, iam just trying to explain. Lets keep for ourselves and make them work for us. Not the other way around.

California was part of my philosophy.

Name an ISP company and i will post the car, the CEO drives.

I can go further and pull up stock charts too.

But ya i just thought it was funny you live in California and you support ISPs charging per GB.

California collapsed it self by trying to limit companies on their producing and the huge false green movement there.

Remember iam fighting for YOU YOU YOU YOU
to have more money in your pocket.
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well I think you guys should be considering yourselves lucky, we here in new Zealand have to pay for data, for me its $70 a month for 35GB and then its $2 per 1GB I go over!!!! and its been like this for about 3 years now.
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you have a monthly limit you cant go over.

wow.... but its really just internet regulations.

Iam sorry buddy alot of people who live here dont know what they have.
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I downloaded over 700gb last month.. Glad im not in the USA for this one lol
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