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Internet access is not a utility...
im pretty sure it can be argued as such in these days when internet access is becoming as much of a necessity as phone or gas, incidentally also operated by phone companies in some areas, and the FCC pushing for nationwide broadband access.

nevertheless, my main point was that this was coming sooner or later by the same people who charge you for the amount of minutes you spend on the phone.
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I would agree and says its impossible....
But at the United nations security counsel meeting Brazil was calling for internet regulation...... and a little common sense would tell you, governments world wide arnt so comfortable with the information on the net. Its really hard to tell whats gonna happen, but we need to choose sides now. I grew up on the internet, and i just happen to like it the way it is. Is it wrong for me to say i just want the internet to be left alone? Weather it happens or not, we need to support internet freedom to make sure it doesn't happen.
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Internet access is not a utility...
No but there is such a damn STRANGLEHOLD on it you can call it a resource at this point. One that is being controlled by large corporations. It isn't a jacket or a phone or... any of the usual stuff. No it's practically like oil. Sure, more of it can be made, unlike oi,l but we the consumer can't do crap about it. And the entire world is using more and more. We aren't going backwards. Either the government steps in or else we will pay through the damn nose for data access.

I'm sure that's flamebait for the pro capitalism crowd, though.
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The ISP's need to stop crying about their bandwidth problems and install some decent infrastructure. Fiber optics or get out.
In most cases this isn't even necessary. A simple, cheap backend/software update (DOCSIS 2.0 > DOCSIS 3.0) would drastically improve their bandwidth issues. The current fiber infrastructure's themselves are mostly fine.
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Internet is a luxury. You can use it for free to do the important stuff at a library, or use mail.
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A simple, cheap backend/software update (DOCSIS 2.0 > DOCSIS 3.0) would drastically improve their bandwidth issues. The current fiber infrastructure's themselves are mostly fine.
They won't do that unless they actually have the fiber backbone to support hundreds of local DOCSIS 3.0 connections. It's not some switch that automagically gives you more bandwidth, you need the back-end fiber to support that much traffic; contrary to what you seem to think, many cable markets DO NOT have that kind of back-end bandwidth.

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im pretty sure it can be argued as such in these days when internet access is becoming as much of a necessity as phone or gas, incidentally also operated by phone companies in some areas, and the FCC pushing for nationwide broadband access.

nevertheless, my main point was that this was coming sooner or later by the same people who charge you for the amount of minutes you spend on the phone.
Precisely. This is why Finland legally considers internet access a utility. Given, this isn't Finland, but it's relevant.
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Internet is a luxury.
Not anymore it's not. It's the backbone of just about everything today.
 
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Not anymore it's not. It's the backbone of just about everything today.
Now it's not. Every thing can still be done on paper, or over the phone. You can order from freaking newegg over the phone.
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I probably make 1TB of traffic a month. How will i pay for that?
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