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50 cents per GB??? maybe??? nope

5 cents per GB???? maybe??? $50 a month.... doable
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Now it's not. Every thing can still be done on paper, or over the phone. You can order from freaking newegg over the phone.
The internet is the backbone of modern society. If it were to disappear tomorrow the world would probably implode.

Okay, slight exaggeration. But at the very least the world's economy would shut down and there'd be utter chaos.
 
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The sad thing is that they know we will all pay for it same as with the gas companies, simply because it's become a necessity and not a want. We will all end up getting screwed over in the long run and these companies will just line their pockets with cash.

Instead of rolling out a budget plan to get our infrastructure on par with everyone else these companies are *****ing out and setting things to their favor and only putting a band aid the issue.

Also for those of you with AT&T's non unlimited plan you already have an idea of what overage charges can look like with the whopping price of $10 per GB you go over. I'm aware this is for mobile data, but it's some what of an insight of charges to be if you go over your usage.
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If I didnt have internet I wouldnt be able to pass half of my classes because all assignments and readings are online only.
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Also for those of you with AT&T's non unlimited plan you already have an idea of what overage charges can look like with the whopping price of $10 per GB you go over. I'm aware this is for mobile data, but it's some what of an insight of charges to be if you go over your usage.
I just can't fathom people using that much cellular data. I'm against all this nonsense just like everyone else, but the how heck to people use THAT much data on their smartphones?
 
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I've used over 3GB in one month and it's very possible especially with tethering. Good thing I am grandfathered in with my unlimited data though
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I've used over 3GB in one month and it's very possible especially with tethering. Good thing I am grandfathered in with my unlimited data though
wont be long till they figure out a way to take that away from their customers.
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Obama's Nation.


Say what you want, that's what it is.


Monthly fees are set to cover bandwidth. I say, if we are to do this, to set tiers.

IE, 10MB/s line:

Up to 10GB, $19.95 a month
11GB-30GB, $29.95 a month
31GB-100GB, $39.95 a month
UNLIMITED, $59.95 a month

Good luck with those imaginary prices. They will have the provider cost/speed cost (what we have now) and then the data package on top of that. Oh and then the overage charges and who knows what they will be. I'm also certain the normal user doesn't even know how much data they use in a month.

I see this happening a lot if this does roll out, "hi blah blah blah I'm calling because I'm required to get a data package I'd like such and such". A month later when the bill arrives "ffffffffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu uuuu how did I use this much?!". I see a lot of that happening.


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Originally Posted by SIMPSONATOR View Post
wont be long till they figure out a way to take that away from their customers.
And that's when I'll leave AT&T boohoo.
Edited by AdvanSuper - 12/22/10 at 4:35pm
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They won't do that unless they actually have the fiber backbone to support hundreds of local DOCSIS 3.0 connections. It's not some switch that automagically gives you more bandwidth, you need the back-end fiber to support that much traffic; contrary to what you seem to think, many cable markets DO NOT have that kind of back-end bandwidth.
http://www.freepress.net/node/74796

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With major advances in technology in recent years, U.S. cable operators now have the ability to increase our Internet speeds, but they’ve long been dragging their heels on using their immense profits to invest in their networks. You may have heard about cable companies beginning to offer downstream speeds of “up to” 50 or 100 Mbps using DOCSIS 3.0 technology. Of course, these faster speeds would only begin to catch us up to our overseas counterparts.

Most likely, though, your cable operator still hasn’t begun offering the service, but here is a peek of what you can expect if that changes. In our filing, we run the numbers on DOCSIS 3.0 to illustrate just how cheap these upgrades are in relation to your monthly service fee. In other words, we show just how inexpensive it is for cable operators to offer large swaths of the country much faster speeds.

In general, two pieces of equipment need upgrading in order to get faster Internet: the equipment in your nearby cable building, and the cable modem in your home. Your cable company charges you a monthly modem rental fee separate from your monthly cost for broadband (Comcast just increased its fee). You can also buy your own modem.

The second piece of equipment that needs upgrading for faster Internet is the cable company’s equipment (known as the CMTS). In most cases, this is simply a software upgrade (like an update of your operating system), and the cost savings associated with the upgrade appear to completely offset its cost. Making these upgrades will allow companies to offer much higher speeds, something they should already be doing, given how much we’ve all been paying them for years.

In our research, we discovered all sorts of cable operators and equipment manufacturers discussing just how cheap these upgrades are (see our filing, pp. 40-41). Japan’s largest cable operator revealed that these upgrades cost about $20 per household, while U.S. cable operator Charter puts that number at $8 to $10.
Most larger companies' (Time Warner, Comcast, Charter etc) infrastructures are most certainly capable of handling the traffic. They're just in no hurry because their profit margins at the moment are insanely high. And yeah, a DOCSIS upgrade is pretty much an automatic switch for higher speeds - with the DOCSIS 3.0 capable modems in homes of course.
Edited by Pillz Here - 12/22/10 at 4:46pm
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If ISPs chose to do that new ISPs would just spring up offering true unlimited packages.
Thats why I said to myself. This is just a chance for some company to innovate, forcing others to innovate.

We wouldn't have these problems if corporations didn't have terrible infrastructures.
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