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Project Turambar: Corsair Obsidian 800D, Liquid Cooled, i7-970, GTX 580 SLI

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Here is the build log for my system. It isn't exactly a "new" build as I have been working on it for over a year. But I recently obtained the final components to complete the build as I originally intended.

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It will be a liquid cooled PC with two loops. One for the CPU & Chipset, and one for the GPUs. Housing the new build is the Corsair Obsidian 800D. This case is a monster, and I love the all black look, inside and out. I had to make a few minor modifications for the two loop system to work, but the mod went great, and I am pleased with the results.

Parts List:
* Case: Corsair Obsidian 800D Full ATX
* Power Supply: Corsair HX1000
* Motherbord: EVGA X58 Classified
* CPU: Intel i7 Core 970
* RAM: 12GB Corsair Dominator @ 1600MHz
* GPU: 1 EVGA GTX 580 Hydro Copper 2
* GPU: 2 EVGA GTX 580 Hydro Copper 2
* GPU: 3 EVGA 9800GT (Dedicated PhysX, and to power side LCD monitors)
* Sound Card: Creative X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Edition
* Hard Drive 1: Intel X-25m 160GB SSD (Operating System & Programs)
* Hard Drive 2: WD Velociraptor 150GB HDD (Game/Steam Installs)
* Hard Drive 3: Seagate 500GB (User Files)
* Hard Drive 4: Seagate 1TB (Storage)
* Optical Drive: Asus Blu-Ray / DVD+R
* Fan Controller: Scythe Kaze Master Pro 5.25" 6 Channel Fan Controller / Temp Display
* Card Reader: Silverstone FP35 housed in Lian Li 5.25” to 3.5” bay adapter

Loop 01 (Blue)
* Tubing: PrimoFlex Pro LRT UV Blue Tubing -3/8in. ID X 5/8in. OD (10ft)
* Coolant: Feser One UV Blue
* Reservoir: XSPC Acrylic Dual 5.25in. Reservoir (originally was a XSPC 5.25" Black Single Bay Res)
* Pump: Swiftech MCP350 12 VDC Pump
* Radiator: HardWare Labs X-Flow Extreme III
* CPU Block: Swiftech APOGEE-XT Extreme (originally was a Swiftech GTZ as seen in a few pictures)
* MoBo Block: EK-EVGA X58 Classified Full Board Waterblock
* Fittings: Bitspower Compression Fitting-ID 3/8" OD 5/8" (x2)
* Fittings: Bitspower Barb Fitting-ID 3/8" (x2)
* Fittings: Bitspower G1/4 Dual Rotary 45-Degree Compression Fitting-ID 3/8" OD 5/8" (x4)
* Misc Parts: Bitspower Metal T-Block, Bitspower Temp Sensor, Bitspower Male to Male G 1/4 Fitting
* Koolance QDCs (Quick Disconnects) (x2)
* Fans: Cooler Master R4 120mm Blue LED Fan R4-L2R-20AC-GP (x3)

Loop 02 (Green)
* Tubing: PrimoFlex Pro LRT UV Green Tubing -3/8in. ID X 5/8in. OD (10ft)
* Coolant: Feser One UV Green
* Reservoir: XSPC Acrylic Dual 5.25in. Reservoir (originally was a XSPC 5.25" Black Single Bay Res)
* Pump: Swiftech MCP350 12 VDC Pump
* Radiator: HardWare Labs GTX240
* GPU Block: The EVGA GTX 580 Hydro Coppers come with a custom Swiftech WB pre-installed
* Fittings: Bitspower Matte Black Rotary 90 Degree Compression Fitting-ID 3/8" OD 5/8" (x2)
* Fittings: Bitspower Compression Fitting-ID 3/8" OD 5/8" (x4)
* Fittings: Bitspower Barb Fitting-ID 3/8" (x2)
* Fittings: Bitspower G1/4 Dual Rotary 45-Degree Compression Fitting-ID 3/8" OD 5/8" (x2)
* Misc Parts: Bitspower Acrylic T-Block, Bitspower Temp Sensor, Bitspower Male to Male G 1/4 Fitting
* Koolance QDCs (Quick Disconnects) (x2)
* Fans: Cooler Master R4 120mm Blue LED Fan R4-L2R-20AC-GP (x2)

I will post the pictures within the build log, but will also add a link to a larger version of each picture if anyone would like to take a closer look at something.

The case arrived in excellent condition. I knew the dimensions, but was still amazed as to how big it was.

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Build_01

In order to make it work for my dual loop idea, I had to modify the bottom of the case to accept a radiator. For a more detailed work log on adding a bottom radiator, go here:
http://forum.corsair.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81698
In order to remove the bottom hard drive cage you must remove a total of 2 screws and 8 rivets. Two of the rivets must be replaced once the drive cage has been removed.

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Build_02

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Build_03

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Build_04

Before adding the power supply, I applied some weather stripping material to the rails that will hold up the PSU to give a bit of cushion. I also used Vinyl Dye to make all the PSU cables jet black. I was planning on individually rel-sleeving all of the cables but decided against it after I tried on a test cable and realized how much of a pain in the ***** it was. I also didn’t want the added bulk of the individual sleeves. Vinyl Dye is not paint. It gets absorbed into the cable sleeve and turns everything black. Looks great and is really easy to apply.

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Build_05

Next step was to remove the stock cooling from the EVGA X58 Classified and install a full board block from EK. It’s a great match for the board, and temps on the VREGs and Chipset are MUCH lower than with stock cooling.

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Build_06

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Build_07

I decided to go with the Swiftech APOGEE XT for my CPU block. I didn’t like the shiny chrome look of the mounting brackets so I spray painted them black to better match the rest of the components.

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Just to get an idea of what it looks like, I threw in the 12GB of Dominator RAM along with the Corsair RAM Cooler.

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Build_09

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Build_10

Now on the the rest of the liquid cooling loops.
    
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I have dyed all the fan cables/extensions along with the other PSU connections that were not already black.
Here you can see the tape job covering all the connectors, in preparation for the vinyl dye. The pump is also wrapped up there on the right.
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Here are all the fan extensions that plug into the fan controller, dyed jet black.
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These are the Swiftech MCP350 pumps that I will be using for the two loops. At first I mounted them in the bottom of the hard drive cage. Later on I installed them in the XPCS Dual Bay Res. Pictures of that to follow.
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Here is what the CPU/Chipset loop will look like. I haven't mounted the top radiator yet, but you get the idea. You can see the two pumps sitting side by side behind the fan controller. Next bay up is the card reader. The two Reservoirs, and the Optical Drive.
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Here is a pic of the front with all the bays installed.
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Side shot with one loop partially installed, and all the PCIe / PCI slots filled with what I have. (1) Creative X-Fi Titanuim Fatal1ty Edition, (2) EVGA 8800 Ultra, (3) EVGA 9800GT (PhysX), (4) Wireless N Card.
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*Side Note.... that sag you see in the seperator between the PSU chamber and Motherboard area has been fixed buy using a wodden dowl, spray-painted black. It will be visible in future pictures.
    
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Originally I had planned to have my Optical Drive in the top bay of the case. But I ran into the issue with the barb from the radiator sticking out into the top 5.25in bay. I thought I had planed so meticulously, and this kind of mistake really pissed me off. Luckily, the fix wasn't too bad, and ended up only being a minor delay. I was able to move the card reader from the 4th bay down, up to the top bay, and put the optical drive in its place. Problem solved.
Here you can see where the barb was in the way and how far it made the optical drive stick out. No bueno.
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Here is the fix by switching the card reader with the optical drive.
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Here is a shot of the tubing I used for this build. PrimoFlex Pro LRT UV Tubing -3/8in. ID
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Here is the guy that was giving me all the problems. The X-Flow design means that there is one port on each side of the radiator. That way you don't have to run tubing across the PC case. I though it would make for an easier install, but that proved not to be true because of the barb issue.
The fans are Cooler Master R4 120mm Blue LED Fan R4-L2R-20AC-GP. They push a lot of air, but can be a bit loud when maxed out. With the fan controller I have them at about 1,000RPM, and they are whisper quiet and still move plenty of air through the radiator. They do have blue LEDs but they are not very bright and give a soft blue glow to the inside of the case. I used 6-32 x 3/8" Socket Cap Head Screws to secure the fans to the radiator, and the radiator to the case.
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These are the fan extensions cables that plug into the Scynth Kaze Server Fan Controller. I used vinyl dye to get them jet black. You can see them plugged in along with some of the temperature monitor cables.
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For my liquid I went with Feser One non-conductive fluid. UV blue and UV green to match the colors of the tubing.
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I ending up not using these Reservoirs, and will include pictures of the new one in a future post. For now, check out the Feser One liquids lookin' pretty with LED backlighting.
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I welcome community feedback, so let me know what you think so far. Thanks for looking.
    
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Ok. So while I am waiting for my i7-970 to arrive I will go ahead and install my EVGA GTX580 Hydro Coppers, and put together my loops. The Hydro Coppers are really nice looking cards, and the waterblock, custom made by Swiftech, look like a much better design that the 480 model. I am glad that the block covers the full PCB. Very good looking card.
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It comes with the 580 backplate which just adds to the awesome look of this card.
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Here is a shot of the Bitspower fittings I will be using with the Hydro Coppers. Went with the matte black compression fittings.
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Ok here we have the 3 GPUs installed. I don't have my i7-970 yet so until then I will be running with my i7-920, which is currently installed beneath the Swiftech Apogee XT in the picture below. I really like the look that these cards bring to the build.
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And here is a shot with all the tubing and my Koolance QDC (Quick Disconnects) installed. I don't have any fluid in the loops yet as I broke an o-ring on one of my QDCs. Gonna have to run to the hardware store tomorrow to get it replaced. The QDCs make draining and cleaning the loops really easy, and i like the way they look all bunched together like this. Reminds me of the bullet chambers on a revolver pistol.
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Ok, now for some pics of various components that I have also just installed. Here we have my Intel X-25m 160GB SSD. Using it for my OS and Program drive. This little guy has provided the most noticeable difference in overall use/speed compared to any other hardware upgrade I have had over the past year or so. Everything is so snappy with this guy installed.
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Here is the EVGA USB 3.0 PCIe card. Works great with my Seagate GoFlex drives that support USB 3. It would be nice to have a USB 3.0 on the front of my case, but as I don't use it that often, I am happy with this simple upgrade.
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These are the little heat sinks I purchased to place on some of the hot spots on the MoBo. Not a necessity by any means, but they look good.
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Placement of the heat sinks near the RAM slots
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Placement of the heats sinks near the CPU socket
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Here is the bottom of the XSPC Acrylic Dual 5.25in. Reservoir. I was going to use one XSPC Single Bay Res for each loop, but in the end I decided to go with the Dual Bay one instead. In addition to keeping things more simple by combining everything into one unit, it also reduced the noise of the pumps to almost nothing.
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I did have to do a bit of modding to get this to fit into the 800D, but it was very simple. Just used a rotary tool to make the slots on the side of the res a bit deeper. Now the rails/fins inside the 5.25" bay slide in just fine.
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I ended up going with a new Scythe Kaze Master Pro 5.25" Fan Controller because my previous one (Scythe Kaze Server) kept dying on me. I think I was over loading the 4 channels, because it would often be very hot to the touch. This new one has six channels, so I don't have to double up any fans. Each rad fan has its own channel, and the extra one is used for the RAM fan which can be loud at full speed. Very happy with this fan controller thus far.
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Here is one of the four (4) Koolance QDCs (Quick Disconnects) I am now using in my loops. Two (2) on each loop makes for very easy draining, cleaning/flushing, and refilling. I think they look pretty good as well. These particular ones (Male fitting, Female fitting) are Hi-flow, and I haven't noticed any rise in temps, so they seem to be doing their job.
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Case Shots! This is the front of the case with the XSPC Dual Reservoir installed. Really like the look of the split bays. The pumps are nice and quiet while installed in the Res as well. Before the when the pumps were just sitting inside the case, they were the only audible part of my system. But now, even they are near silent.
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Here is a shot of where I placed the cathode tube on the side panel. You can't see them when the panel is on, and they do a good job of making the tubing glow.
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Here it is, in all it's glory. The guts of Turambar. Here is the order of the items I have in the PCI slots:

* Creative X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Edition
* EVGA GTX580 Hydro Copper 2
* EVGA 9800GT (dedicated PhysX card)
* D-Link Wireless N Card
* EVGA GTX580 Hydro Copper 2
* EVGA USB 3.0 Card
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With side panel on, and UV cathodes active.
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Cathodes off, natural light/camera flash showing off the tubing color. I really like the color combo going here. I would have also have been happy with all blue tubing, but I decided that since I have two separate loops, I would make the different colors.
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Here is a shot of the build located in my home office / man cave. As an attempt to keep things from getting too cluttered, I located the case to the far left of my workspace and am using 15ft DVI cables and USB extensions to hook up my LCD monitors, keyboard, mouse, etc.
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The system is near silent, and was really fun to build. I will be putting it through the ropes in a few days, and will post all my final temps and benchmarks as soon as I am done. Big thanks to my wife for letting me buy all this stuff, and to my kiddos for "helping Daddy" with this build. Thanks for looking.


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I plan on using this post for Temperatures and Benchmark scores as I have a chance to run them.

Ok, temps are great at the stock clock settings for the Hydro Coopper 2 (GPU @ 850Mhz). I was freaking out at first because both my 580s were at 75°C and climbing while just idling on the desktop. Gave my rig a "jiggle" and must have released an air bubble because the temps instantly dropped down to the low 30s. After that ordeal I ran a few quick benchmarks to test temps.

Heaven DX11 Demo/Benchmark @ 850MHz - 60min Loop
API: DirectX 11
Stereo 3D: disabled
Shaders: high
Tessellation: extreme
Anisotropy: 16
Anti-aliasing: 8
Full screen: Yes
Resolution: 1920x1200
During this 60min loop my Hydro Coppers never hit over 52°C.

Crysis Warhead Bbenchmark (by FRMEBUFFER) tool @ 850MHz - 30 Loops
Mode: ENTHUSIAST
64-bit: Yes
Display Resolution: 1920 x 1200
FSAA: AA 16x
Loops: 30
Map: ambush
Time of day: 9
During this 60min loop my Hydro Coppers never hit over 49°C.

Temps are doing great. I will work on overclocking these cards this week and will report back with actual benchmark scores and additional temp info at that time.

I was wondering if it would be worth running my 9800GT as a dedicted PhysX card with the 580s in SLI. Ran two benchmarks to test it.

CryoStasis PhysX Benchmark Tool
GTX 580 in SLI + 9800GT Dedicated to PhysX
Settings Maxed
Average FPS: 109.6

GTX 580 # 2 running PhysX while in SLI Mode
Settings Maxed
Average FPS: 97.2

Batman Arkham Asylum in-game Benchmark
GTX 580 in SLI + 9800GT Dedicated to PhysX
Settings Maxed
Average FPS: 79

GTX 580 # 2 running PhysX while in SLI Mode
Settings Maxed
Average FPS: 73

With both of these PhysX tests, I still gained a few FPS when using my 9800GT as a dedicated PhysX GPU. Glad to see those results, it will stay in my build. More benchmarks and temps to come over the course of the week.
    
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Well I was able to get the cards to post at 1GHz, but found that they were not benchmark stable at that frequency. The temps were fine (low 60s) even at a voltage of 1.138V, but just wasn't stable. Same at 975MHz. The second GPU test on 3DMark Vantage crashes at that frequency.

950MHz works great in benchmarks, but I don't think I want to keep it there for my 24/7 setting as I have to crank the voltage up pretty hight to achieve that clock. 925MHz seems to be my sweet spot for daily use @ 1.1125v. Was able to throw multiple benchmarks and games at them in SLI, completely stable and never got above 54C at any point. The blocks seem to be performing just fine. Looks like it will be luck of the draw if you can get any 580 that can run a bench at 950MHz or higher. Some guys have been able to to do it without many problems, others can't.

Ran Heaven DX11 benchmark for 30 minutes, then ran 3 loops of the Crysis Warhead benchmark maxed out with Enthusiast settings @ 1920x1200 with 16X AA. High temp during the entire process was 54C, and my Average FPS in Crysis was 81.21FPS. Loving these cards.biggrin.gif

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Mr_Armageddon,
First off let me say thank you for taking the time to shard your build with us in such and detailed and well documented form. I have been considering a new build and after seeing yours (and wiping the drool from my mouth) I decided to go ahead and do it.

I'm using your build as the basis for mine, but there are a couple of things I'm considering changing and as the planning progresses I wanted to try to get an expert opinion before I try something crazy or impractical

So, I was hoping to pick your brain on the current issue I'm facing. I'm a storage freak, so taking out the bottom internal HDD cage doesn't seem to be an option for me, considering I'm planning on 5 disc total with an empty hot Swap slot for data transfer and troubleshooting. Considering that, I was wondering if it would be practical to place the radiator over the fan just behind the Hot Swap Bay or it would be better still to mount it on the back of the case on the other side of the that fan. Or even move the back fan to the outside of the case and mount the radiator there.

I was also thinking about placing the smaller radiator in the CPU Look and using the main (Black Ice GT Stealth 360 Radiator) for the 3 GTX 580 Graphics Cards. This is because the room I'm currently in doesn't have the best airflow and heats up easily which is causing my current air cooled system to overheat especially while gaming.

Thank you ahead of time for any advice you or anyone else could provide for this hurdle and I hope this wasn't too painful to read. I tend to get a little carried away.
post #8 of 14
nice! this was one of the builds that inspired my to mod the bottom of my 800D for a 240 rad (single loop). tnx thumb.gif
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Mr_Armageddon,
First off let me say thank you for taking the time to shard your build with us in such and detailed and well documented form. I have been considering a new build and after seeing yours (and wiping the drool from my mouth) I decided to go ahead and do it.

I'm using your build as the basis for mine, but there are a couple of things I'm considering changing and as the planning progresses I wanted to try to get an expert opinion before I try something crazy or impractical

So, I was hoping to pick your brain on the current issue I'm facing. I'm a storage freak, so taking out the bottom internal HDD cage doesn't seem to be an option for me, considering I'm planning on 5 disc total with an empty hot Swap slot for data transfer and troubleshooting. Considering that, I was wondering if it would be practical to place the radiator over the fan just behind the Hot Swap Bay or it would be better still to mount it on the back of the case on the other side of the that fan. Or even move the back fan to the outside of the case and mount the radiator there.

I was also thinking about placing the smaller radiator in the CPU Look and using the main (Black Ice GT Stealth 360 Radiator) for the 3 GTX 580 Graphics Cards. This is because the room I'm currently in doesn't have the best airflow and heats up easily which is causing my current air cooled system to overheat especially while gaming.

Thank you ahead of time for any advice you or anyone else could provide for this hurdle and I hope this wasn't too painful to read. I tend to get a little carried away.

The fans that come with the 800D are quiet but not very powerful and wouldn't do very well as radiator fans. Of the configurations you mentioned, you would be better off using a radiator on the back exhaust area of the case if you don't want to disrupt the lower HDD cage.

Using the back exhaust single radiator for the CPU and the 360 for your GPUs should work fine. I have seen a few other systems with the same loop set up.
    
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Liquid Hardline Loop w/ 480 Radiator Windows 10 x64 Pro Dell 3011U (Mid) Dell 2007FP (Right) 
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post #10 of 14
Very nice looking! I got an 800D as well, what a wonderful case to mod/build. I could hide myself in xD
The watercooling is sick, but I would have kept the double XSPC recevoirs. They looked more pro!
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