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The EULA and TOS are written by EA.
http://tos.ea.com/legalapp/eula/US/en/PC/

With revenue in mind does that stop Steam from selling games, or Battle.net? Both of which if your caught cheating you don't use those services. I call that network security.

You buy BF3 and connect to the EA network and plan on winning. You lower your morals and buy the cheat. Or you turn into point food.

alex98uk your a great spokesmen for the gaming community. I appreciate your thoughts and posts. I hope EA can turn this around before BF3 is launched.
http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/li...FCD13AC53A7243

http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/445505.page

http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/b...ters-back.html
just because people jump on a forum claiming cheaters doesnt make it true. I get accused of cheating a few times a day. Dropping people with the mac 10 across the map. i just happen to be that good at aiming. I might be good, but i still run across people that make me look like a noob. Are they hacking? maybe, maybe not. Sometimes someone just has your # and you can do anything about it.

In gaming anymore it seems like Someone is never better than anyone else anymore, they are either hacking, or using a noob weapon. No one ever comes across someone better than them anymore. Every wants to cry hacks or you are using an overpowered weapon. No one wants to admit someone is better than them, and having no identity on the internet empowers them to those feelings even more.
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Heh, I do have to admit, so many of the posts making claims about hackers are simply about players that have got lucky. I've had numerous reports about me, forum threads etc... because I got lucky in a game of BF2. I would have a good round and get a silly kill/death streak and the next thing I know, my name is surrounded by the words "scumbag", "cheat", "hacker" etc... It makes the problem seem worse than it actually is.

This was probably the most infamous. I've never cheated, never will do, but despite this score being absolutely kosher... it set off a lot of people with the "alex98uk is a cheater!".



I had my account wiped once when it was spoofed. Luckily one of the BF2 devs personally re-instated the stats (I knew him from the TBF2 days). Also, I bought a key from one of these online key shops which turned out to be a leaked key that several people were using. Eventually it got banned by some bloke in Canada
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Take a look at some of these. Then tell me how good Punk Buster is. BF3 will be the same.MOH is the same! Have I made my point, or do you want more? Locks keep an honest player honest. Over 50% of the kills are head shots. Its not even funny.
K/D 10.03 spm 936. Kills 7,753 deaths 773
http://bfbcs.com/stats_pc/badkiller1000
http://bfbcs.com/stats_pc/Curry-Muncher
http://bfbcs.com/stats_pc/Splitscreen
http://bfbcs.com/stats_pc/MagicOnline
http://bfbcs.com/stats_pc/Ballacaust
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Take a look at some of these. Then tell me how good Punk Buster is. BF3 will be the same.MOH is the same! Have I made my point, or do you want more? Locks keep an honest player honest. Over 50% of the kills are head shots. Its not even funny.
K/D 10.03 spm 936. Kills 7,753 deaths 773
http://bfbcs.com/stats_pc/badkiller1000
http://bfbcs.com/stats_pc/Colonel%20Moss
http://bfbcs.com/stats_pc/Splitscreen
http://bfbcs.com/stats_pc/Curry-Muncher
http://bfbcs.com/stats_pc/Ballacaust
well, first of all, that doesnt say whether they are currently banned or not. Then we need to ask why you posted that many when there are hundreds of thousands of people playing the game. woo 5 hackers when there are 500,000 players atleast.

You can point out hackers in any game. Big deal. The only way to stop a hack is for it to be released and then it is stopped. Its extremely hard to prevent a hack you have not seen before. Hackers come out with a new one, and then punkbuster figures out how to detect it, and then streams the update.

Also, do you have a better option than Punkbuster? if you say VAC, im going to laugh my ass off. VAC is absolutely horrid.

Anyone with any sense knows that the best prevention is an well adminned server. With people there that can catch and ban them, and then you add punkbuster to keep the other riffraff that were previously banned.
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Yea those 10.0 KDRs are ridiculously obvious. The 4.0 I'd say is believable due to how well some pilots do that whore up the chopper all round every round. I wish EA/Dice/PB would take a look at those with a KDR above 2.0 and observe the players in-game or something.
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. Its extremely hard to prevent a hack you have not seen before.

Also, do you have a better option than Punkbuster? if you say VAC, im going to laugh my ass off.
The topic is BF3, im sorry I dont want to derail the thread. I try not call people cheats.


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I wish EA/Dice/PB would take a look at those with a KDR above 2.0 and observe the players in-game or something.
Its not up dice. EA has proven time and time again. They dont care. BFBC2 $60, MOH $60. They are not Blizzard or Steam. IMHO there is only one way to stop it.
alex said it best.
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alex98uk "The second issue is well, something you don't want to hear, one of revenue. Ban players outright from your games and they don't buy more copies of the game when they get banned!"
When BF3 comes out it I'm sure it will cost $60. Six months later after its all hacked pieces it may cost $13.00? Just like BFBC2 does now.
You see what is taking place here. Not the first time.
http://eastore.ea.com/store/ea/cat/p...goryID.8831900

Yea $13 so if your lock is rusty and broken why wouldn't you steal.
You wont.
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How many times do I have to say it?
BC2 was $49.99 on PC.
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Yea those 10.0 KDRs are ridiculously obvious. The 4.0 I'd say is believable due to how well some pilots do that whore up the chopper all round every round. I wish EA/Dice/PB would take a look at those with a KDR above 2.0 and observe the players in-game or something.
KDR really doesn't prove anything though. Look at my old stats from PS3 http://bfbcs.com/stats_ps3/ph33nishun I had a 3.2 KD and that was on a junk console controller. I'm sure once I hop into BC2 for PC next month it will be about the same or better.

Granted I played like a wuss and had a sub 200 SPM (and SPM is generally on average much lower on consoles due to less players). I also had nearly 30% headshot/kill ratio with the AN94, and nearly 75% with the GOL.


What you really need to look at more is a combination of SPM + KDR + Kills per minute (also higher on PC).
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The topic is BF3, im sorry I dont want to derail the thread. I try not call people cheats.




Its not up dice. EA has proven time and time again. They dont care. BFBC2 $60, MOH $60. They are not Blizzard or Steam. IMHO there is only one way to stop it.
alex said it best.


When BF3 comes out it I'm sure it will cost $60. Six months later after its all hacked pieces it may cost $13.00? Just like BFBC2 does now.
You see what is taking place here. Not the first time.
http://eastore.ea.com/store/ea/cat/p...goryID.8831900

Yea $13 so if your lock is rusty and broken why wouldn't you steal.
You wont.

im not sure what your point is? i couldnt find one. bc2 was only $50. bc2 has not been hacked to death either, and bc2 is selling for cheap because if they sell the game for less, they get more sales and then can turn and sell a copy of vietnam also and make more. Its called smart sales tactics.

The more they sell now and provide support for their products, the more people will buy their games in the future. Every BC2 sale is a potential sale for bf3 in the future.
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When BF3 comes out it I'm sure it will cost $60. Six months later after its all hacked pieces it may cost $13.00? Just like BFBC2 does now.
You see what is taking place here. Not the first time.
http://eastore.ea.com/store/ea/cat/p...goryID.8831900

Yea $13 so if your lock is rusty and broken why wouldn't you steal.
You wont.
BC2 on PC was $50 from release versus $60 on console, and that was already during the times where PC games are starting to go for $60, like MW2. I'm pretty sure that EA is well aware that their PC gamers aren't happy with $60 titles, and may possibly feel that MOH didn't deliver to its expectations and may feel somewhat moral and offer BF3 at $50. Regardless, if BF3 is a true quality release like BF2 was I'm more than willing to pay the full price of $60 if it were to cost that much, and I'm sure all BF veterans would be fine with it as well. I threw away $30 on MW2 and on Black Ops so I'm absolutely ok with buying a great release for $60.
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