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Guys they're still humans not aliens :/ They're just a step below us in evolution.
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"Races" do not exist - Genetics has done away with it, and flushed away racial theory. We are all one species, and though there are some outward differences, the deviation from the average is miniscule, and our genome is consistent amongst various peoples. Our "differences" come down to a small variation in proportions and features, and a large variation in our culture - and very, very little to do with any genetic differences, other than the smallest. For instance, in examining a typical "race", the genetic variation turns out to be greater within that "race", than between them and other "races". Races are an outmoded idea when applied to Modern Man - and it is even questioned to whether or not Cro-Magnon Man was any different, next to their culture. (Even Neanderthal wouldn't look that out of place on the street - just a shortish but burly character that would fit in with the wrestling crowd.)

Ancient humans, on the other hand, were distinct sub-species, probably able to interbreed (as they were all Homo Sapiens) - but since humans tend to live in places that do not preserve evidence very well, like riversides and shorelines - we still do not have any idea of how many of these sub-species and variants existed in those times.
It funny many people dont know this
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It funny many people dont know this
They don't - even those that pretend to be "knowledgable" haven't figured out that DNA and Genetics came along and by the mid-70's, completely destroyed the underpinnings of Racial theory.

What I found interesting is that when they "reconstructed" a Neanderthal using the most advanced methods possible, they really wouldn't stick out that much. Stockier, thicker legs, barrel chested, perhaps bearded - but nothing that wouldn't be out of place on a street in a regular city.

I think people carry on with old ways of thinking. Like the photo of "cavemen". For all we really know, "cavemen" didn't live in caves. They could have entirely lived in tents (or yurts) that were portable, suited for nomadic life - and the only reason that we associate them with caves is that they occasionally lived there, where their remains were preserved. We could say the same for the First Nations, that may have stayed in caves at times, but for the most part, lived in some kind of portable structure, or in structures made out of natural substances that would decay quickly, leaving no remains.

I do not think we can rule out such matters, and "cavemen" may have been far more advanced and complex than we generally give them credit for. It is just that they didn't leave records of their existence. We simply do not know, all we know is a small fragment of what we happen to find. The matter of "species" is also always up for debate, with lots of changes made to those assumptions every time some new proof comes up. We simply do not know if these peoples were some distinct branch of humanity, or simply some tribal element that had some kind of slight difference that we interpret as "different", rather than just being a variation. But I am also inclined to think there were number of sub-species variants that came and went, and interbred, until "Modern Man" became predominant, for whatever unknown reason.
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No not likely.. more likely we may live with aliens one day.. so many theories but most evidence pointed to the old scriptures and stones.. only time will tell. I really hope we can co-exist with aliens one day.. who knows but then again maybe 2012 will be the year aliens go to war with bad aliens? Like they said? Then again it could be also something else then again MAYBE nothing happens and we still have a chance to discover the truth i dunno.. I just know one thing.. it won't be the end of the world cuz i have instincts lol.

I just know we will indeed have visitors coming soon.. just soon.

Don't know when.


People think it's fake.. it's not.. the proof is all there with the right research.
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"Races" do not exist - Genetics has done away with it, and flushed away racial theory. We are all one species, and though there are some outward differences, the deviation from the average is miniscule, and our genome is consistent amongst various peoples. Our "differences" come down to a small variation in proportions and features, and a large variation in our culture - and very, very little to do with any genetic differences, other than the smallest. For instance, in examining a typical "race", the genetic variation turns out to be greater within that "race", than between them and other "races". Races are an outmoded idea when applied to Modern Man - and it is even questioned to whether or not Cro-Magnon Man was any different, next to their culture. (Even Neanderthal wouldn't look that out of place on the street - just a shortish but burly character that would fit in with the wrestling crowd.)

Ancient humans, on the other hand, were distinct sub-species, probably able to interbreed (as they were all Homo Sapiens) - but since humans tend to live in places that do not preserve evidence very well, like riversides and shorelines - we still do not have any idea of how many of these sub-species and variants existed in those times.
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They don't - even those that pretend to be "knowledgable" haven't figured out that DNA and Genetics came along and by the mid-70's, completely destroyed the underpinnings of Racial theory.

What I found interesting is that when they "reconstructed" a Neanderthal using the most advanced methods possible, they really wouldn't stick out that much. Stockier, thicker legs, barrel chested, perhaps bearded - but nothing that wouldn't be out of place on a street in a regular city.

I think people carry on with old ways of thinking. Like the photo of "cavemen". For all we really know, "cavemen" didn't live in caves. They could have entirely lived in tents (or yurts) that were portable, suited for nomadic life - and the only reason that we associate them with caves is that they occasionally lived there, where their remains were preserved. We could say the same for the First Nations, that may have stayed in caves at times, but for the most part, lived in some kind of portable structure, or in structures made out of natural substances that would decay quickly, leaving no remains.

I do not think we can rule out such matters, and "cavemen" may have been far more advanced and complex than we generally give them credit for. It is just that they didn't leave records of their existence. We simply do not know, all we know is a small fragment of what we happen to find. The matter of "species" is also always up for debate, with lots of changes made to those assumptions every time some new proof comes up. We simply do not know if these peoples were some distinct branch of humanity, or simply some tribal element that had some kind of slight difference that we interpret as "different", rather than just being a variation. But I am also inclined to think there were number of sub-species variants that came and went, and interbred, until "Modern Man" became predominant, for whatever unknown reason.

very elegantly written evanpitts.


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There is some speculation as to whether Homo Sapiens and Neanderthal man were mating already, there is apparently some evidence that points towards the idea that the Stronger Neanderthal were capturing female Sapiens purely for sex. I did post this... but that seems to have vanished??
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http://www.bollywoodworld.com/wp-con...hali-india.jpg

Modern cave man right here. I doubt the differences between modern man and ancient man are that big.
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hence mexicans... lol jk
    
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how am I trolling?
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Interbred?
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