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Windows 7 on iPad.
    
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err... non-x86 windows isn't windows if windows apps don't work on it :/
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I see this going into making faster more streamlined home file servers ect.. Small cheap windows based nasbox maybe even some kind of router who knows.
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Numerous youtube demos have shown that Windows 7 on a tablet works just fine. The only thing that I can see getting a redesign are some of the system options and the start menu.

Windows Phone 7 was designed for <4" devices, and its fairly anemic as it is. Porting it up would be a disaster. It doesn't even support multitasking! It would probably be less work to start from scratch.
I own a 10" Win7 tablet, and I can tell you that there is nothing wrong with the touch interface. People keep saying that it sucks, but most have either never tried it, or they're iCrap users. I'm a long time winmo user, compared to that, WP7 is useless (until patches come out), so I agree that however much work is put into porting it up for larger screens, it'll suck. What we need for battery savings is a light OS that doesn't have a million unused services running in the background. It could, for instance, turn off drivers if they're not in use, and learn from user habits (e.g. why is the print spooler running on my tablet? it will never even see a printer close up!!!).

Right now the OS is the biggest problem of tablets, besides battery life (those are closely linked). As soon as we get a purpose built OS, things will look up. Right now, Maemo is looking quite promising...
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I own a 10" Win7 tablet, and I can tell you that there is nothing wrong with the touch interface. People keep saying that it sucks, but most have either never tried it, or they're iCrap users. I'm a long time winmo user, compared to that, WP7 is useless (until patches come out), so I agree that however much work is put into porting it up for larger screens, it'll suck. What we need for battery savings is a light OS that doesn't have a million unused services running in the background. It could, for instance, turn off drivers if they're not in use, and learn from user habits (e.g. why is the print spooler running on my tablet? it will never even see a printer close up!!!).

Right now the OS is the biggest problem of tablets, besides battery life (those are closely linked). As soon as we get a purpose built OS, things will look up. Right now, Maemo is looking quite promising...
i beta tested the Dell XPS L501X, which had a 1366x768 touchscreen, and i can tell you it was somewhat of a pain to use. I much preferred the touchpad.
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Numerous youtube demos have shown that Windows 7 on a tablet works just fine. The only thing that I can see getting a redesign are some of the system options and the start menu.


Windows Phone 7 was designed for <4" devices, and its fairly anemic as it is. Porting it up would be a disaster. It doesn't even support multitasking! It would probably be less work to start from scratch.
I don't really take youtube videos for source, sorry. In my experiences with W7 on touch, if it's not a stylus, it sucks. Sure, it doesn't suck all over, but it does suck in a lot of places. Then you have the problem of not 1, not 2, but 3 major MS operating systems. WP7, W7x86, W7ARM. Is there a market for an appless desktop experience? I doubt that a large quantity of people will buy tablets compared to phones, so the app "market" won't be as large.

Add on to that the fact that MS will most likely have 2, if not 3 tablet OS's in the market at once (W7x86 because people still want to use the apps, W7ARM because of the battery life etc, and maybe WP7, it's been hinted at) and MS tablet market becomes a mess.

On the otherhand, you can take WP7, add features such as multitasking, and such that are in the works for it anyway, scale the UI up, and there. It already comes with an MS office suite iirc, it already has a good sized customer base, and apps are already being made for it.
    
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I don't really take youtube videos for source, sorry. In my experiences with W7 on touch, if it's not a stylus, it sucks. Sure, it doesn't suck all over, but it does suck in a lot of places. Then you have the problem of not 1, not 2, but 3 major MS operating systems. WP7, W7x86, W7ARM. Is there a market for an appless desktop experience? I doubt that a large quantity of people will buy tablets compared to phones, so the app "market" won't be as large.
The responsiveness is a hardware issue, not an MS issue. Blame the builders/hardware manufacturers for the type of screen they used / quality of components.

Also, all of those operating systems are obviously for different types of systems and all are necessary given the types of components that yield the best benefit given the desired dimensions of the respective enclosures. The cross-compatibility might be an issue, though. I'd guess that the work product from the apps would be cross-compatible, but the apps themselves might not be, too. However, MS definitely does keep compatibility/conversions in mind when they push out products, so I'm hopeful that their plans will require minimal code alterations on the part of developers.
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As long as they leave our desktops and our x86 CPUs alone, they can do whatever they want with tablets.
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Ahaha, it'd be cool if you could stick Windows 7 on an iPad, that'd be pretty cool.
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Numerous youtube demos have shown that Windows 7 on a tablet works just fine. The only thing that I can see getting a redesign are some of the system options and the start menu.


Windows Phone 7 was designed for <4" devices, and its fairly anemic as it is. Porting it up would be a disaster. It doesn't even support multitasking! It would probably be less work to start from scratch.
The problem would be when you try to do anything. Every single application ever written for Windows would need a recompile. It would be windows in user interface alone - at least to begin with.

Ars did a good writeup on this: http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/new...s-no-sense.ars
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