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Whilst you'd get a extra High End computer with the 2500 USD, here in my country, this was the max I (or anyone) can afford:

Asus P6X58D-E (so far so good)
Intel Core i7 930 2.80ghz QPI 4.8GT/s 8mb Stepping D0 @ Cooler Master V8 @ 3.34
3x2gb DDR3 Gskill 2000Mhz RIPJAWS CAS9 @ 1859 MHZ
MSI GTX460 1Gb GDDR5 Cyclone 1GD5/OC @ Stock (for now)
Samsung 23" P2370H Full HD 1920x1080 2ms HDMI
WD Black 1Tb SATA3 64MB Buffer WD1002FAEX
CoolerMaster 1000W SilentProM 80 Plus Modular
Cooler Master 690 II Basic + R4-S2S-124K-GP Cooler Cooler Master Silent Fan 120mm x4 + R4-L2S-122B-GP Cooler Cooler Master 120mm x2

I can't reach more than 1860mhz on the 2000mhz RAM, but I also read that it's difficult @ X58 chipset



I saw many 3.8/4.0 GHZ overclocking, hitting almost same temps as I do, and i have a CM 690 II case, fully "fanned" (2 top 2 bottom 2 side 1 front 1 back, all CM 1200RPM fans) but I can't manage to do the same. Thermal paste is the one that came with the V8, and ambient is 20-22º

Later i'll post the BIOS settings
If anyone can check this pic, and tell me if everything is OK, would mean a big deal to me.
Hopefully some guidance over here
post #2 of 16
First off, how do you have your case fans oriented? Sounds like you have good ambient temperatures, and plenty of fans, but unusually high cpu temps. The rule of thumb here is to have positive air pressure (more fans blowing into the case than fans blowing out), and a common air flow direction (such as front, side, and bottom fans are intake, back and top fans are exhaust).

Next, make sure your cpu cooler and it's fans are following the aforementioned "common air flow direction". Most of the time the cpu cooler is blowing the heat into a rear exhaust fan. If these first two steps don't help lower the cpu temperatures, try remounting the cpu cooler and use very little thermal paste.

As for your overclock, might I suggest you try the following:
BCLK: 181mhz
Cpu multiplier: x21 (disable turbo)
Cpu voltage: 1.26v
Ram: 1810mhz (x10 multiplier or 2:10)
Ram voltage: 1.64v
Uncore/VTT/qpi: ~3620mhz (double the ram speed)
qpi/dram voltage: 1.35v

This will put you at 3.8ghz with a ram speed of 1810mhz. Test these settings for stability.

If you're satisfied with that overclock, we can work on lower the voltages (for lower temperatures and longer lifetime). But if you want to go higher, we can shoot for 4ghz+1900mhz ram.
 
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I could gather all of the important data from your Windows screenshot, but after looking at your bios settings, you should also turn your cpu clock skew to 0ps (or auto, if that's the option).
 
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post #5 of 16
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If i run Linx for 10 seconds, temps will go 90 degrees... and i shut it down before something explodes.. what can this be ?

Case: CM 690 II
Fully fanned (2 bottom 1 front 1 side intake, 2 top 1 rear exaust + psu)
V8 at 2000rpm(max) could it be the thermal paste? Before doing this, i had almost 60º idle, had to add some more thermal paste for it to reach 42º at default core speed
But now with this overclock (slightly 550mhz) it has idle temps of 50-55 on 4 cores
post #6 of 16
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by the way, whats the "Core" temp shown in "AI Suite", in the first picture 60º, when every core is @ 67-75
post #7 of 16
You do have fans on your cpu cooler, right? You are either using too much thermal paste, have it incorrectly mounted, or your ambient temperature is >35C .

Quiet honestly, the stock Intel cpu cooler does better than 42C idle at stock speeds.

The "Core" temp is actually the temperature of the IHS (metal top of the cpu, not the cores themselves).
 
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post #8 of 16
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I have my Air conditioner at 20º and this is the lowest i can get with the V8 max speed (2k rpm)
Last time I had to un-build my whole rig to remove V8, and re-applied thermal paste, a "not THAT thin" cape of it. It lowered temps a lot, but i think they should be lower
Now core is at 3100, as you can see here:

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/8623/sinttulorb.png
post #9 of 16
Frankly, most of what I've seen with the V8 on the I7s hasn't been that impressive. The stock coolermaster thermal paste might as well be toothpaste also... I'd be dumping that crap soonest. Also... putting more "crap" on isn't going to help anything and clearly judging by your load of 1.4% and 40-50 degree temps with all those fans going proves it.

There are special ways to apply some of the better aftermarket pastes... OCZ, AS5, IC7 Diamond... all of them are better than stock although everyone has their favourites. I'm an IC7 advocate personally.

Frankly, the V8 was marginal for some of the older chips but you need to step it up for the I7- especially with lofty OC goals. Even a 30 dollar Coolermaster Hyper 212 REALLY impressed me with its single fan- nevermind what it could do with two fans. So you're other option doesn't have to be a $80 dollar beast with 3000rpm fans... there are simple solutions as well

Anyway, until you get that cooling sorted out I wouldn't be pouring on the volts much higher than you already are... if your idle temps are hovering ANYWHERE near 40- nevermind over.
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post #10 of 16
Well, I don't know what to tell you. You won't be able to overclock much if you're seeing such high temperatures, as you already know.

I'm still convinced that there is something wrong with the cooler or how it's installed, because you should be idling in the 30s with such a small OC. My vote would be to take it all out of the case and run it on your desk or counter... this would eliminate a few variables and make remounting the cooler very easy.

I'd also check out a few installation videos/guides, make sure you didn't forget something silly. Lastly, does the thermal paste have a cure time?
 
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