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How's that?

A single core of a Phenom II X6 runs it maxed out @1680x1050 at about 35FPS. Performance per clock doesn't matter much in a multi-threaded game, as the biggest bottleneck would be the lack of threads/cores. On a Pentium 4 you'd be looking at about 24FPS average. I never said PhII = P4 anyway, all I said was P4 could max the game, and that proves it.

I use a Sempron 140@3.6GHz at work, and even gaming on it, found barely any difference in performance between it and my Athlon @2.5GHz (2-3 frames) in games like Mafia II.

Plus OP never stated his resolution for gaming, and at 1280x1024, even a stock Pentium 4 would max it at playable frames, so what I said before still goes.
My i3 530 @ 3.6 and a 4670 could not max out cataclysm at 1920x1080. In fact, it could only run the game on fair settings. WoW is fairly intensive these days.
    
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LOL are you kiddin' man? A Pentium 4 is good enough to max out World of Warcraft...
Wrong.
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And as far as I know, WoW only uses one core..
Wrong.
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LOL are you kiddin' man? A Pentium 4 is good enough to max out World of Warcraft.

And as far as I know, WoW only uses one core. The problem with performance in busy areas is, as SpookedJunglist rightly stated, a bandwidth bottleneck, so your extra money for the X6 would be better spent on the best internet package you can find.
Yup I used to play WOW on my pentium 4 just fine. People argue that they have upgrades the graphics but I don't see it being different enough to demand 4X the processor power.
    
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LOL are you kiddin' man? A Pentium 4 is good enough to max out World of Warcraft.

And as far as I know, WoW only uses one core. The problem with performance in busy areas is, as SpookedJunglist rightly stated, a bandwidth bottleneck, so your extra money for the X6 would be better spent on the best internet package you can find.
No its not.

My rig with a dual core at 4,5Ghz + 4Gb RAM + GTX 470 and SSD+RAID0 combination is struggling with WoW. Especially in highly populated areas like Stormwind etc. Also in 25-man raids the FPS drops quite dramatically pretty often.
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No its not.

My rig with a dual core at 4,5Ghz + 4Gb RAM + GTX 470 and SSD+RAID0 combination is struggling with WoW. Especially in highly populated areas like Stormwind etc. Also in 25-man raids the FPS drops quite dramatically pretty often.
Hmm your PC has enough brute, it shouldn't go that low.
Heck, my AM3 build (720 X3 @ 3.6Ghz/8GB Ripjaw/5770) could do better then that.
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Ok thinking of just getting the x4 then and getting an ssd, mobo is asus 870tdevo. Getting a gtx 470 for sure still trying to find good ram to use with amd like cas 7an pc 1600
you'd benefit more from a ssd than 2 extra cores
I'd just get a c3 955(oc to 4.0) for 145 and ssd for 100 ish and you'll end spending about the same as a 1100t and gain way more performance at least in wow
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Hmm your PC has enough brute, it shouldn't go that low.
Heck, my AM3 build (720 X3 @ 3.6Ghz/8GB Ripjaw/5770) could do better then that.
Well I didn't say how low but I'd say around/below 30FPS.
I do have my resolution set at 1680x1050 and the graphics settings are all on Ultra. Yes, including shadows. Antialiasing is on 4x.
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World of Warcraft, despite the graphics upgrades, is still a fairly CPU-intensive game. In my experience, WoW needs three things, in this order:

1) A fast CPU, especially when raiding.

2) A low latency Internet connection. Never mind the bandwidth - WoW could run on 256Kb DSL if it had to - but get those ping times down.

3) A half-decent graphics card. Which one you get will obviously depend on your resolution, but say at 2560x1600 a stock GTX460 would be more than enough. WoW isn't Crysis.

Oh and just for reference, a P4 cannot max WoW. I used to run dual P4 Xeons and used to struggle in raids. Also, WoW is not about bandwidth - it uses like 8Kb/sec or something - it's about latency and CPU power, especially with a lot of action.

Quick edit:

In terms of CPU, an i3 (dual core) is more than fast enough for WoW.
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World of Warcraft, despite the graphics upgrades, is still a fairly CPU-intensive game. In my experience, WoW needs three things, in this order:

1) A fast CPU, especially when raiding.

2) A low latency Internet connection. Never mind the bandwidth - WoW could run on 256Kb DSL if it had to - but get those ping times down.

3) A half-decent graphics card. Which one you get will obviously depend on your resolution, but say at 2560x1600 a stock GTX460 would be more than enough. WoW isn't Crysis.

Oh and just for reference, a P4 cannot max WoW. I used to run dual P4 Xeons and used to struggle in raids. Also, WoW is not about bandwidth - it uses like 8Kb/sec or something - it's about latency and CPU power, especially with a lot of action.
Youre missing one.
An SSD has made a MONUMENTAL difference in my overall gaming experience.
Not just loading in either.
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My system usage with everything maxed 16x and 8x respectively:



I started out flying around twilight highlands getting between 64 and 120 fps, I then fought shredders outside the keep, then moved into stormwind and sat at the AH for a bit, then flew up into the air for a entire view of stormwind.

My thoughts are you don't need a x6, you need decent core speeds, you need a decent gpu.

I'd go for a Phenom II x3, and a gtx 460 at least if you want to run close to max and not stutter.

Edit: My system did bog down to about 42 fps sitting outside the AH in stormwind, but that is an extreme in wow - on my sever there are over 14k alliance players and over 600 people in stormwind alone.
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