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I've got a 1090T running at 20x200 / 1.4V with a Akasa AK-922 'Evo Blue'

Using speedfan I can montor both the core and socket temps, but even with the fan on full I get the following...

core/socket

Idle 32/40
Games 50/65
Prime95 59/70 after a minute or two, then I stop it when the core hits 60.

it's fitted correctly using good thermal paste etc.

I've read 63C is the max for a 1080T, but is this an absolute max, meaning if you go over it's certain death, or is it an operating max meaning it's not ideal, but you can safley operate at a max of 63?

Also should I use the core temp reading or the socket?
post #2 of 9
i use core temp,it works great,and yes those temps are alittle high,try reseatting the heatsink..
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go with the socket temp... on my 1090 the core is about 8-12* lower than the socket. the cpu should shut down the system if it gets too hot, but you don't ever want to get to that point... 70 on the socket is definitely too high for me.

in order to run at 4 ghz, i'd recommend getting a better cooler

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The core temp is found inside of the actual CPU. The socket temp is simply found on the motherboard. Therefore, I think the core temp is more accurate. My core temp is always 3 degrees Celsius lower than my socket temp. So when reading the temp on my 790FX-GD70's display, I always subtract 3 from it to get the exact temp. Also, I'm not entirely sure about the hexa-core Phenom II's but my X4 965 C3 is supposedly safe at a maximum of 62 degrees Celsius. It usually stays under 52c during a long Prime95 load with my NH-D14 cooler. I assume that the AMD hexa-core processors are similar in heat levels, maybe slightly hotter. Try to keep it under 60c core during Prime95. It shouldn't need to be any hotter. Mine easily goes past 60c with the stock cooler on during Prime95. Thankfully, I'm never touching that garbage again. smile.gif

EDIT: Forgot to touch on your other question. The "max" temp means that you should be worried if it runs past that certain temperature. Anyhow, hope my long post helped you out some. Good luck.
Edited by ChicknWafflZ - 12/23/10 at 2:50am
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while all of you are correct in assessing core temp as an accurate reading for the cpu, the motherboard is just as important. while most enthusiast mobos have a very high safe temp (iirc 100*c is the max for my board) high temperatures take their toll on a motherboard.
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Hmmm, I guess I probably do need a better cooler. Prices in the UK suck!

The NH-D14 is £60, I guess if I'm gonna upgrade my cooler I'd be better going for water cooling as that was my ultimate plan anyway.

I was thinking of going for this -> http://www.scan.co.uk/products/xspc-x2o-750-dual-525-bay-reservoir-pump-v2

and a 360mm rad that will fit nicely on the top of my Cosmos S

But all that + cpu block, pipes, fittings and fans will proably be £200 frown.gif
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The NH-D14 is arguably the absolute best choice if you're going to stay with air cooling. My usual gaming load temp is 37c to 41c. Idle is usually down at 23c-27c. Liquid cooling is sick as well, but sometimes the high maintenance can outweigh the low temps. Biggest con about the NH-D14 is that it takes up your entire top-half of the case. You have to take the CPU cooler completely off to remove sticks of RAM. You also need very low-profile heatsinks on your RAM. Lastly, make sure you have some room between the top of your case and the motherboard, unless you have very small hands that can fit in tiny crevices. Installing the NH-D14 in my large mid-tower case is very frustrating, to say the least. Overall, the NH-D14 is an amazing air cooler. Check around on Google Shopping for the lowest price possible. I ordered mine from an obscure website, rather than a popular retailer. Got it for $70 USD rather than $100 USD back in January. Okay, sorry for the overload of text. I'm in a very talkative mood tonight. biggrin.gif
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^this. h2o has its cons, but if you dont care to do a little maintenance every 6 mos to a year, its worth it, imo. look and see if you can find an xspc rasa kit. they're pretty much the cheapest way to get your foot in the door with a cpu loop and get great performance.
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You can safely operate at that temperature, above is "supposedly" taking away some of the lifespan. Maybe in a year you might have to run a lower clock or more voltage, etc.

I use a practical approach once a system is stable: Check your temps while gaming/encoding/etc. Generally I'm never ever within 5c of the p95 max when gaming/encoding, and it looks like you aren't either. If you're not running near the limit in acutal use, then you can assume it's safe for the duration of the time you'll be using it. My advice: Run with it. No need to spend any more money on a different cooler unless you hope to hit a higher clock or something.
    
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