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Microsoft has "saved" pc gaming at least half-a-dozen times in the last few years haven't they?
And they're so good at it too. I wonder what their secret is?
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Im somewhat affraid of windows 8, They say something about it having our data on a cloud, I hate E-Clouds, Yet i kinda get the feeling there gonna add more games on the market (that are ports) and charge us £50 a year like the xbox players,

Also its prolly gonna have crap compatibility like Win7, And some crappy "game boosters" just so they can fill the O/S with junk.
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I'll believe this when I see it.
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You're really stupid. As to your question about "what happens if steam dies", which it wont anyways because Valve makes so much money off of it and has 40 million users. Why don't you just email Valve CEO Gabe Newell and ask him. I did and he said that they would release some sort of offline patch which would allow you to game offline. Which they already did(Steam offline omde hurr). The rest of the problems you stated lies within the game developers pool. Also, the rest of you stated that XBLs save system is stupid... Well Steam has the exact same thing. Cloud saves, IE when you switch computers your saves are backed up along with your in-game settings. But thats only if the developer allows it which is why Source games are so fully integrated into Steam. If you don't like it, go get a console system. Steam is not adware. Last time I checked you can disable the "Steam News" popup in the settings. FYI, nice lie. Steam does not provide CD-Keys for games purchased so you can't "pirate the iso and install it with the cd key steam gives me". God dam. Also, I'm pretty sure a harddrive is physical media aswell as DVD's or B-rays.

Page king!
no matter how big a corporation is, it will eventually go away. think about aol 15 years ago, it was unimaginable that they were going to go away, now think about aol now.

gabe can promise, but promises are empty until they are filled.

i do have every console made from the snes on.

i don't have to look out for steam advertisements, i just have to look at forum posts or look at all my cellphone texts with people saying "omg look at the sales on steam!" people basically advertise for them like drones. i already bought most of the good games through bargain bins at various brick and mortar places.

and look again, steam does provide you with cd-keys compatible with retail discs. i install the non-steam version with every 3rd party game steam sells. i can provide proof if needed.
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Anyone else thought that by 'pc gaming' they mean Farmville?
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Anyone else thought that by 'pc gaming' they mean Farmville?
what.Who mentioned Farmville.
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For folks who are still reluctant when they hear "cloud", its understandable because the term has been beaten to death by marketing departments, but try to not think in terms of the extreme ends of the spectrum.

Short of experiments along the lines of Google Chrome, most "cloud" integration work is happening in a hybrid fashion. Microsoft pushed this message from day one with their "software + services" strategy, but that was met with cynicism also. It is tough these days for Microsoft to have a good objective discussion with the community because of where the corporate image is, but they often do have things right in many ways (and I dont just say that because I spent 10 years there - I criticize MSFT plenty)

Reality is that everyone relies heavily on "the cloud" every day and has been since the late 90s. As internet connectivity and protocols, and web development and content management tools, continue to improve, the hard lines between "local" and "remote" will continue to blur.

Steam has been mentioned... It's a great example. The Apple app store is a great example as well.

You can bet that Windows 8 will bring a Windows app store and a revamp of "Windows Live" services including "Windows Gaming Live". XBox Live silver is free, so its not like "mandatory XBox Live" would be so horrible, but I do not anticipate that is remotely likely to happen. The brands are very separate. The MSFT goal is to final try to create platform synergy. So what is much more likely to happen is that "Windows Gaming Live" will become a much more first class citizen and both look like, and sync with, XBox Live (and also be backed by an app store).

In addition, I am sure DirectX will move forward as it has in Vista and in 7. Lots of cynicism on this thread, but I think MSFT has actually dont a pretty good job of keeping some life in PC gaming. Especially considering that the *vast* majority of gamers vote with their dollars and *choose* to go console only. We "hardcore" PC gamers/enthusiasts might not like that, but it IS reality. PC gaming is a "halo" project and a bit of a loss leader. It is a way to show off the platforms ultimate capabilities and produce projects that simply dont work well on a console (3D surround gaming, advanced sims, MMOs, etc)

The cloud bit will almost certainly be enhanced, and more seamless, integration with cloud services. Hopefully selectable in terms of provider, but until open, cross platform, cloud APIs are developed (and INTER cloud APIs) this is going to be the realm of "plug ins" and will likely not be well exploited (the way the only "internet identity" you can link to your Windows login today is Live - no one else has chosen to write a provider)

More seamless integration with cloud services is a good thing. Carbonite, Amazon (AWS, EC2, Kindle, etc), GMail, Windows Security Essentials, and on and on are all great examples of how "cloud services" can make anyones life a hell of a lot more convenient and give you increased agility and capability. And if you are an arch skeptic, or don't trust anyone/anything, then you can opt not to use any of it. You can bet that MSFT will *not* *force* anyone to a cloud model. This is their *key* differentiator against ARCH RIVAL Google. The Google model is pretty much "cloud only". Google is really MSFT's biggest competitor. The MSFT message is that there is VALUE in having local storage, local apps, local horsepower, *enhanced* by the cloud, so there wont be any big change in core strategy.
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But, that's the whole problem with people who moan about games not being as good as they used to be. Folk look back on childhood games with rose tinted glasses and remember the good times.

A developer brings out a game that in fact, is just as fun if not better... but you never re-capture that feeling when you were a kid and therefore it gets branded a failure.
Wow I totally agree with you I tend to hate new games because I remember the great times I had playing games when I was younger I hate growing up =( lol
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lies Microsoft!
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What's their plan anyway, launch Windows 8 on the Xbox 720?
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