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Hello fellow OCN members and photography casuals and enthusiasts,

First of all Happy Holidays. Secondly, I have been out of the photography and camera loop for a while now minus point and shoot cameras which are very typical and similar in functions.

At some point in the next few months I would like to acquire a DSLR. Thus I am not sure if there are any DSLR cameras on the way that I should be waiting for in particular. Like any technology there always seems to be some awesome camera just around the corner. However, new DSLR's don't come out quite as often as other technology.

If the answer is no then I would like a recommendation on what is currently out there.

To understand my situation and intentions please read on.

My budget is to be determined, but I am thinking something around $1500 or so for camera and a lens. The intentions are to take both casual and professional shots. For instance I will be doing some traveling at least 2-3 times a year for hopefully the rest of my life. Places like Chicago, Vancouver, Europe, Comic Con and just a variety of places that I would like to have the best shots of. Also, I would like to start photographing weddings to pull in some side money as well as more local events and maybe help out some other photographers here and there. Further, I know there are contests on various sites such as photographer's forum that I would like to submit for. And finally, I would like to start doing some modeling shots in the local area or posters for independent movies.

I don't own a Canon or a Nikon and thus am not vested in any lenses and am not a fanboy either way. I want the best quality and bang for buck possible and be able to achieve the above goals and be able to take professional level shots. I know that I may need further equipment and lenses down the road, but I need somewhere to start and to start it right. I don't want to buy an XTi just to upgrade down the road. I have taken photography classes before as one of my degrees was in multimedia design and development. So I am competent at least to a degree.

As far as my preference in a body it doesn't matter as long as it is quality and has a good ergonomic feel to it. For instance the Xbox 360 controller compared to the PS3 controller is much more comfortable and ergonomic and it fits my hands which are at least average if not slightly longer than the average male (I'm 6,2" and can palm a BBall to give you an idea).

Hopefully that is enough info. to give you a clue in how to help me.

Thanks in advance.
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Check out the Nikon D90 and the Canon 50D. Both are semipro-ish cameras that allow you to grow. They are also not the latest models, which makes a huge difference in price, and allows you to get some nice lenses with it.

I'd say both cameras are about equal on a practical level, so that leaves your personal preference as for grip/ergonomics.

Lenses: for Nikon I suggest the 18-105 VR (nice general purpose stabilised zoom lens), and a 35mm F/1.8 (great little lens for lowlight).

For canon it will probably be the 17-85 or 15-85 (the latter being a bit better, but more expensive), and the 35mm F/2.

Another choice would be the sigma 18-50 F/2.8 OS, which is a faster (larger aperture) lens which is also stabilised. You do sacrifice some range though.
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Canon T2i 18-55mm kit. this lens is about a 4x zoom so its good to have for closeups and its fairly small, and the camera also shoots 1080p video

EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS Lens for roughly a 12x zoom for getting up close from far away and its image stabilized

both of those plus an SDHC 16gb class 10 card (which you should have for a camera that also shoots video) will be roughly $1100.00 and you'll have one of the sweetest setups around that any comic con girl will drool over and any comic con dude will envy you for!!!
Edited by Squeeker The Cat - 12/23/10 at 9:52am
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Canon T2i 18-55mm kit. this lens is about a 4x zoom so its good to have for closeups and its fairly small, and the camera also shoots 1080p video

EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS Lens for roughly a 12x zoom for getting up close from far away and its image stabilized

both of those plus an SDHC 16gb class 10 card (which you should have for a camera that also shoots video) will be roughly $1100.00 and you'll have one of the sweetest setups around that any so called comic con girl will drool over!!
I was thinking more semi-pro, but this is not a bad recommendation.
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it is a pretty semi pro camera......its on the low end of their hi end cameras and the hi end of the low end dslr cameras LOL if that makes any sense........but it really is a wicked camera
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it is a pretty semi pro camera......its on the low end of their hi end cameras and the hi end of the low end dslr cameras LOL if that makes any sense........but it really is a wicked camera
Although making comic con girls drool sounds good...

I was under the impression that semi-pro were cameras between $1000-$2500 while all pro was $2500+. And then there are Hasselblads. LOL.

The idea is that semi-pro can do a variety of shots and is very versatile while super pro cameras only focus on shots that are very high res and typically don't do action shots such as advertisements on bill boards and similar venues.

To be honest I wish I knew what they use in various situations such as a Victoria Secret or Bazaar fashion shot. And at the same time what might be used in a car magazine or National Geographic shot. If I knew the kinds of cameras used to achieve those shots I would be much more confident in my purchase knowing what I have the potential to do.

I wonder if the latter topic deserves its own thread.
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The issue here is that you definitely will need a cheap body with that sort of budget. There's absolutely no way you can pull off professional quality shots with a semi-pro body if all you have left over in your budget is for cheap glass, because that will result in sub-par pictures.

My personal recommendation is for a used Canon 40D. They can be found on POTN for around $500 for the body, which is a great steal given the body's ergonomics and solid build.

That leaves $1000 to spend on glass. For your sort of photography, I'd recommend a used EF 24-70mm f/2.8L (~$900). It has a nice focal range for indoors photography, yet at a fixed aperture of f/2.8, could do very well indoors. If you're willing to expand your budget a bit, I'd add on a 430EX II flash on top of that.
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well i can tell you that lens wise, most ads in magazines of whatever are usually shot with 18-55mm lenses, mostly cause they are like 10 or so feet away from their shots......but id say the t2i is on the low end of the spectrum......what you may need to consider is, are you going to be shooting bazaar or VS shoots? do you really need a $1500.00 DSLR when a $800.00 DSLR will work perfect for what you need?

mind you im by no means a PRO photographer at all, in fact im sub amateur, just getting into photography myself, but i read a crap load on other forums.....you may want to try searching around STEVES DIGICAMS they have a great forum and TONS of in depth reviews on almost every camera your looking at.....
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it is a pretty semi pro camera......its on the low end of their hi end cameras and the hi end of the low end dslr cameras LOL if that makes any sense........but it really is a wicked camera
Sorry, have to disagree with you there. In terms of imagequality, it's definitely a smeipro/pro camera. that's not where the difference lies.

The difference is in the handling. It has a plastic body, is not very weather resistant, lacks buttons to quickly change settings, and does not have a top screen.

I have both a D90 (semipro), and a D2H (as pro as you can get), and even between those there's quite a difference in handling.

@roddimusprime:

It's not about the camera! For fashion shoots, they generally use Hasselblad's, or the high res pro bodies from CaNikon (D3x, 1DsMkIII).
However, you don't need those. Even the cheapest camera is able to produce high quality shots. The difference is in the handling. I went outside with my D2H for some snow shots. The camera fell in the snow, got covered in ice, and it even had a small puddle of water in the lens hood.

And it survived, and the battery did not suffer 1% from the cold. That's the difference between a pro body and a budget body, not imagequality

My point is that you can quickly grow out of an entry-level body. I have handled them after shooting professionally with the D2H and D90, and I was ready to tear my hair out. I really missed the top screen and the dedicated buttons, and the larger grip, not the imagequality.

Heck, any budget DSLR you buy will have better imagequality than my D2H!


EDIt: Squeeker, ***. I have never, ever seen a fashion shoot with 18-55 kitlenses. Not only are those lenses generally less sharp, they are also for cropped sensor bodies, and let's not mention the crappy perspective you get with the relative wide-ness of that lens. Also, the small aperture makes it near-impossible to get the background out of focus.

Most portraits are shot with tele lenses, like the 70-200 F/2.8, or the dedicated 105mm F/2 types. The 85 1.4 is also a great choice to get that extra background creamyness.

And then there's of course the lighting setup. Think:
-infinity wall
-softboxes
-reflectors
-assistants
-hair lights
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Sorry, have to disagree with you there. In terms of imagequality, it's definitely a smeipro/pro camera. that's not where the difference lies.
I always imagined those terms to be related to marketing more than image quality itself.
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