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Fashion shoots generally use high MP fullframe cameras, nikon d3x, canon 1ds3/5d2, sony a900/a850 or medium format. you want as many pixels and detail as you can get since a runway is fairly well lit and the models are not moving very fast so high iso isnt needed with fast glass. this is also true for portraits or studio work when things arent really moving and you have a well controlled environment.

static car shoots are going to be the same as above, but moving/track will generally get faster bodies (FPS burst and AF) and possibly even a crop sensor body to get closer.

of course this is when you have all the money in the world and you are looking for the best suited camera for the job. but as a semi-pro/advanced amateur and with a $1500 dollar budget, you really dont have the luxury of thinking that far ahead.

in your shoes i would look into pentax k7 or nikon d7000 or a canon rebel t2i/50d. the k7 will be the best camera for your budget but you will have to switch systems (or go dual systems) when you want fullframe or some exotic glass. canon t2i/50d will give you a decent body and room to upgrade later but it wont offer as many features as the pentax. the nikon d7000 is the best body but you only get the kit 18-105 which isnt horrible but is rather slow.
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Originally Posted by RoddimusPrime View Post
Hello fellow OCN members and photography casuals and enthusiasts,

First of all Happy Holidays. Secondly, I have been out of the photography and camera loop for a while now minus point and shoot cameras which are very typical and similar in functions.

At some point in the next few months I would like to acquire a DSLR. Thus I am not sure if there are any DSLR cameras on the way that I should be waiting for in particular. Like any technology there always seems to be some awesome camera just around the corner. However, new DSLR's don't come out quite as often as other technology.

If the answer is no then I would like a recommendation on what is currently out there.

To understand my situation and intentions please read on.

My budget is to be determined, but I am thinking something around $1500 or so for camera and a lens. The intentions are to take both casual and professional shots. For instance I will be doing some traveling at least 2-3 times a year for hopefully the rest of my life. Places like Chicago, Vancouver, Europe, Comic Con and just a variety of places that I would like to have the best shots of. Also, I would like to start photographing weddings to pull in some side money as well as more local events and maybe help out some other photographers here and there. Further, I know there are contests on various sites such as photographer's forum that I would like to submit for. And finally, I would like to start doing some modeling shots in the local area or posters for independent movies.

I don't own a Canon or a Nikon and thus am not vested in any lenses and am not a fanboy either way. I want the best quality and bang for buck possible and be able to achieve the above goals and be able to take professional level shots. I know that I may need further equipment and lenses down the road, but I need somewhere to start and to start it right. I don't want to buy an XTi just to upgrade down the road. I have taken photography classes before as one of my degrees was in multimedia design and development. So I am competent at least to a degree.

As far as my preference in a body it doesn't matter as long as it is quality and has a good ergonomic feel to it. For instance the Xbox 360 controller compared to the PS3 controller is much more comfortable and ergonomic and it fits my hands which are at least average if not slightly longer than the average male (I'm 6,2" and can palm a BBall to give you an idea).

Hopefully that is enough info. to give you a clue in how to help me.

Thanks in advance.

I'll +1 on the D90 or 50D reccomendation. Those are very solid bodies to start with and extremely robust and perform well.

I'd say either a Canon 50D + Canon 17-55/2.8 or Nikon D90 + Nikon 17-55/2.8, both of which will could be a little over budget (especially the Nikon setup). You can keep under budget by cheaping out on the lenses, but it would be like getting Michelin tires for a Porsche.

Also, it's worth mentioning Sony and even Pentax DSLRs. I do so because both companies are putting out nice products these days. Pentax has the Kx and the new K5 (the K5 is one of the better APS-C cameras out currently) and Sony is making headlines with the new A55.

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it is a pretty semi pro camera......its on the low end of their hi end cameras and the hi end of the low end dslr cameras LOL if that makes any sense........but it really is a wicked camera
It is a good camera, but the Rebel line up is most definitely not semi-pro. Cheaper build, less robust, slower, more automatic features, etc.

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Although making comic con girls drool sounds good...

I was under the impression that semi-pro were cameras between $1000-$2500 while all pro was $2500+. And then there are Hasselblads. LOL.

The idea is that semi-pro can do a variety of shots and is very versatile while super pro cameras only focus on shots that are very high res and typically don't do action shots such as advertisements on bill boards and similar venues.

To be honest I wish I knew what they use in various situations such as a Victoria Secret or Bazaar fashion shot. And at the same time what might be used in a car magazine or National Geographic shot. If I knew the kinds of cameras used to achieve those shots I would be much more confident in my purchase knowing what I have the potential to do.

I wonder if the latter topic deserves its own thread.
Yeah, as others said, only the most high end equipment and lighting are used for such shoots. If they aren't using FF 35mm sensor DSLRs, then they're using Hasselblad or Mamiya bodies with digital backs or even straight film.

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The issue here is that you definitely will need a cheap body with that sort of budget. There's absolutely no way you can pull off professional quality shots with a semi-pro body if all you have left over in your budget is for cheap glass, because that will result in sub-par pictures.

My personal recommendation is for a used Canon 40D. They can be found on POTN for around $500 for the body, which is a great steal given the body's ergonomics and solid build.

That leaves $1000 to spend on glass. For your sort of photography, I'd recommend a used EF 24-70mm f/2.8L (~$900). It has a nice focal range for indoors photography, yet at a fixed aperture of f/2.8, could do very well indoors. If you're willing to expand your budget a bit, I'd add on a 430EX II flash on top of that.
For a crop, the 24-70 is less ideal. The Canon 17-55 is a much better choice by far; wider, IS, much lighter, less expensive and cheaper. I've owned both lenses so I can speak from experience here.

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well i can tell you that lens wise, most ads in magazines of whatever are usually shot with 18-55mm lenses, mostly cause they are like 10 or so feet away from their shots......but id say the t2i is on the low end of the spectrum......what you may need to consider is, are you going to be shooting bazaar or VS shoots? do you really need a $1500.00 DSLR when a $800.00 DSLR will work perfect for what you need?

mind you im by no means a PRO photographer at all, in fact im sub amateur, just getting into photography myself, but i read a crap load on other forums.....you may want to try searching around STEVES DIGICAMS they have a great forum and TONS of in depth reviews on almost every camera your looking at.....
Hm, well, be careful about what advice you offer up then. Saying that magazine ads are shot with 18-55mm kit lenses is simply wrong to highest degree possible. Perhaps you just meant lenses within that focal range.

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I always imagined those terms to be related to marketing more than image quality itself.
Certainly so, especially for cameras like the D90 and 60D, but FF cameras are clearly professional models and entry-levels are not. You don't need marketing to make that distinction.

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Just my 2 cents. i don't own or pretend to know anything about professional cameras.. I own a Canon EOS Rebel. Very basic. But from what i've read one of the big differences between canon and nikon is that nikon does a little bit better with flash
If by a little better you mean a higher guide number or faster recycle, then it still doesn't mean much. On board pop-up flash sucks no matter what.
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Body isn't really as important as the lens. If you're just starting out and have a pretty high budget I'd recommend this:

Canon 40D: 500
17-55mm: 750
70-200mm f4 non-is: 500
    
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The cheaper option to GoneTomorrow&my recommendation would be the Sigma 18-50mm F/2.8. Pretty much the same range as the other lenses, but much cheaper, and stabilised. The lens review sites are quite impressed by that lens.
    
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