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What timings are you running your ram at?

The q67 will bottleneck a 480 on any game that uses the cpu a decent amount like bc2.
My cpu is the bottleneck in my system (running bc2)
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Not sure if 700watts is good enough for a much more demanding GPU, could someone let me know?
It is not the wattage that matters, it is the amps on the 12 volt rail and the efficiency of the unit. You need a power supply that supports about 10 amps more than what the requirements for the card ask. You also want at least 80 percent efficiency. The GTX480 requires 46 amps, so shoot for a power supply with a 56 amp rail.

The brand is also very important. Generic companies do not use objective electrical measurements to give you their efficiency, wattage, and 12 volt rail amp ratings. They just make them up! Hardware reviews of power supplies have discovered this over and over again. The age is also important because power supplies designed before 2006 were not meant for single cards that used over 30 amps.

For instance:
I have an Apevia 700 watt PSU that has about 66 percent efficiency and probably only about 30 amps total for all of the 12 volt rails. This cannot safely power a GTX295. The power supply starts to cook itself when any card tries to take too many amps for the 12 volt rail. However, I also have a 700 watt corsair with 56 amps on its 12 volt rail. It can easily handle any single video card on the market. Meanwhile, I once owned an Athena-Tech 1000 watt that exploded using a single GTX295.

Also, some of the generic companies lie about the efficiency of their units. See the article below:
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/artic...-Badges/1054/2
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Well I got an extreme power plus 700w, says its DC output is +12v, and maximum amperage at that is 52amps. Whats the word on that brand of Powersupply's? Its only 4 amps short of your recommendations if I went with a GTX 480, the only thing is all my USB ports are maxed out with joysticks, throttle, a flight console, track IR, rudder pedals, 2 mice, a headset, G15 keyboard, etc. etc.

Ram timing is probably whatever it came from the factory. As for overclocking the CPU, Im well past the warranty on my MoBo and do not want to risk burning it up, or the CPU for that matter, Im very cautious about OCing when Im doing it on my own dollar.

I don't know much about P/S's but I needed a new one right away because my old one I bought used 4 years ago, and I think was 3 years old already when I bought it, it was an Antec 500w that was dying off and couldn't power my PC with all USB ports maxed out.

Ill check out the GTX 460, but is there any improvements I can make to my RAM, that would free up the abilities of a 480 GTX?

I think I MIGHT only have enough slots for 4 gigs of ram on my MoBo, but could someone find out please?
Edited by Lezbianseagull - 12/23/10 at 12:31pm
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It is not the wattage that matters, it is the amps on the 12 volt rail and the efficiency of the unit. You need a power supply that supports about 10 amps more than what the requirements for the card ask. You also want at least 80 percent efficiency. The GTX480 requires 46 amps, so shoot for a power supply with a 56 amp rail.

The brand is also very important. Generic companies do not use objective electrical measurements to give you their efficiency, wattage, and 12 volt rail amp ratings. They just make them up! Hardware reviews of power supplies have discovered this over and over again. The age is also important because power supplies designed before 2006 were not meant for single cards that used over 30 amps.

For instance:
I have an Apevia 700 watt PSU that has about 66 percent efficiency and probably only about 30 amps total for all of the 12 volt rails. This cannot safely power a GTX295. The power supply starts to cook itself when any card tries to take too many amps for the 12 volt rail. However, I also have a 700 watt corsair with 56 amps on its 12 volt rail. It can easily handle any single video card on the market. Meanwhile, I once owned an Athena-Tech 1000 watt that exploded using a single GTX295.
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Well I got an extreme power plus 700w, says its DC output is +12v, and maximum amperage at that is 52amps. Whats the word on that brand of Powersupply's? Its only 4 amps short of your recommendations if I went with a GTX 480, the only thing is all my USB ports are maxed out with joysticks, throttle, a flight console, track IR, rudder pedals, 2 mice, a headset, G15 keyboard, etc. etc.

Ram timing is probably whatever it came from the factory. As for overclocking the CPU, Im well past the warranty on my MoBo and do not want to risk burning it up, or the CPU for that matter, Im very cautious about OCing when Im doing it on my own dollar.

I don't know much about P/S's but I needed a new one right away because my old one I bought used 4 years ago, and I think was 3 years old already when I bought it, it was an Antec 500w that was dying off and couldn't power my PC with all USB ports maxed out.

Ill check out the GTX 460, but is there any improvements I can make to my RAM, that would free up the abilities of a 480 GTX?

I think I MIGHT only have enough slots for 4 gigs of ram on my MoBo, but could someone find out please?
I think that is a Coolermaster unit. Look on Hardware Secrets for reviews of their products.
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/728
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/artic...-Review/917/10
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/artic...y-Review/759/9

I could not find a review for that specific model, but based on the reviews of some of their other models (which were only fair), one might be looking at purchasing an Antec, Corsair, or Thermaltake of the same or higher wattage.

Also, please add your system to your profile.
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I talked to my brother that installed most of the PC components and he said that with the gargantuan CPU cooling fan is what gets in the way. I can not fit anymore Ram in my slots, but it looks like I have a couple more that could be utilized if there was space. Ill let you be the judge of it with this side pic of the MoBo/CPU/GPU configuration.


So can I upgrade my ram with 4 better sticks of ram, or should I remove the components that get in the way of me installing the extra ram, Im thinking the CPU cooling fan, but I was really focused on getting a decent OC on my CPU when I bought that fan and I can only muster 3.16 it seems without running into reliability issues, although that may have been because I had someone inexperienced with PC building, install the thermal gel on the CPU.

I can use the current cooler master P/S as a stop gap while I order a better p/s, and auction off the parts I don't need on ebay. ALl I knew at the time was that I did not have a PC that would work without replacing the 7 year old 500w antec P/S that was dying on me, so I had to get whatever was available.
Edited by Lezbianseagull - 12/23/10 at 1:00pm
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if i were you i would overclock the Q6700 and install Windows 7 64-bit so you can use all your RAM
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if i were you i would overclock the Q6700 and install Windows 7 64-bit so you can use all your RAM
I got windows 7 ready, but I have to use Vista to play GTA IV as I was on the phone with Rockstar for hours trying to get it to work with 7, I found it was impossible.

In the pic, doesn't it look like I canteven install more than 4 gigs of ram because of the CPU Fan?

I have a dualpartitioned harddrive so I can always install it on the other partition.
Edited by Lezbianseagull - 12/23/10 at 1:17pm
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if i were you i would overclock the Q6700 and install Windows 7 64-bit so you can use all your RAM
He's only using 32-bit? That's not good.
    
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Your system is fine, just upgrade that gpu, The GTX 470 at $250 and GTX 570 at $350 are your best bets, both will be fine for pretty much any game, the 570 gives you 480 performance at a good price with much lower power consumption and heat.
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