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Solid state drives can deliver exceptional performance, but they're not necessarily fire-and-forget upgrades. You'll only really get the best possible experience from them if you pay attention to details like TRIM support and available firmware updates.
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I used to use Toms hardware all the time but changed because of the unwanted ads. I was trying to view this review but am getting ads every 30 seconds. Tom's Hardware site has gone from good to horrible.
Edited by Ragsters - 12/26/10 at 6:17pm
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Who is Tom anyways?

To me, the big impediment to SSD is TRIM, that and a lack of mainstream manufacturers, and the total lack of availability of those devices (or really, any computer device) in the area I live in...
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I used to use Toms hardware all the time but changed because of the unwanted ads. I was trying to view this review but am getting ads every 30 seconds. Tom's Hardware site has gone from good to horrible.
I will let him know that those ads aren't very good for the page
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RANT: I stopped reading the second they used "legit" in the article. If someone is payed to write/edit an article, they need to do their job. And if a review site cannot get this simple task taken care of, how can I trust them to test properly? And to the complaints about ads, I have installed ad block plus, it makes the web a much better place. /RANT
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SSD Alignment Format Setup.

First before you do anything....before you begin the new installation make sure you have the HDD option in your BIOS set to AHCI. Not IDE OR SATA. AHCI will include SATA but it won't work the other way around.

Thanks Rockr69 and twocables.

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I think that the installer doesn't align it properly to begin with. Here's a method that was recently taught to me that I guarantee will work perfectly to properly align a solid state drive:
  1. To make things easy, disconnect all other drives (but leave any optical disc drives connected)
  2. Boot from the Windows 7 installation DVD
  3. When you see the "Install now" button, click "Repair your computer"
  4. You'll see a little window named "System Recovery Options" appear that searches for Windows installations.
  5. When it finishes, you will see a dialog box. Select "Use recovery tools that can help fix problems starting Windows. Select an operating system to repair.", and then click Next.
  6. Click "Command Prompt"
  7. Type diskpart to load DiskPart
  8. Type list disk
  9. Type select disk 0 (or whichever number your SSD gets)
  10. If you want to be sure you have the right one selected, then type list partition.
  11. Once you know you have the right drive selected, type clean.
  12. Type create partition primary align=1024
  13. Type format quick fs=ntfs
  14. It will appear like it's going to take forever, but then like 5-10 seconds later, it suddenly finishes, jumping straight from 0% to 100%.
  15. Type active
  16. Type list partition to see your creation.
  17. Type exit
  18. Type exit
  19. Click Restart
  20. Boot from the DVD again and perform a normal installation using the "Custom (advanced)" type of installation.

So to summarize:
  1. Get to that Command Prompt
  2. Type diskpart
  3. Type list disk
  4. Type select disk 0 (or whichever number it turns out to be)
  5. Type clean
  6. Type create partition primary align=1024
  7. Type format quick fs=ntfs
  8. Type active
  9. Type exit
  10. Type exit
  11. Click Restart
  12. Install Windows 7

This will prevent Windows 7's installer from creation that 100MB partition, and it will also be properly aligned!
If this helps you send some love to "Two Cables" for his wisdom.

BTW. Two Cables informed me that he got this info from lsdmeasap
Much love to you and all. The Man that writes Bios for a Living.
Edited by Enigma8750 - 12/27/10 at 1:03pm
    
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Originally Posted by EvanPitts View Post
To me, the big impediment to SSD is TRIM
All SSD controllers have supported TRIM in the last year... and Windows 7 and Linux support it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by EvanPitts View Post
that and a lack of mainstream manufacturers,
Intel, Samsung, and Toshiba are most definitely mainstream.


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Originally Posted by EvanPitts View Post
and the total lack of availability of those devices (or really, any computer device) in the area I live in...
Where do you live?
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RANT: I stopped reading the second they used "legit" in the article. If someone is payed to write/edit an article, they need to do their job. And if a review site cannot get this simple task taken care of, how can I trust them to test properly? And to the complaints about ads, I have installed ad block plus, it makes the web a much better place. /RANT
What? Using the word "legit" invalidates the entire article?
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I had just updated to the latest intel drivers a few days ago and went to update the firmware on my agility 2. For some reason it wouldn't detect the drive. After a half an hour of googling I found that the OCZ tool doesn't work with the latest intel drivers, I would have to revert back to old driver, update the firmware, then install the newer drivers. Might get to that tonight.
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I would say the thing that makes me well very unstable about getting ssd's are not only the price but the capacity. I don't care if it goes 1 petabyte read / write and it can cook breakfast, if they don't get them over 250gb+ they are pretty much never going to get anywhere.

I would still have to keep like a raid 1 software storage in linux and run the os on the ssd. I really want to wait another year or two because that is when the capacity will be maturing. The speed has matured to dang near capped at each tier. SATA II ssd's I have see 280 read / write speed which is damn near maxed out. The SATA III will still have some speed increases to go, but will be there soon.

However, the unstable thing about ssd's are the firmware updates. Update your firmware and hope to Christ you don't have your crap erased and have to reinstall it. With hdd's we don't have to deal with firmware, so for desktops still more stable to stick with hdd's. Once the firmware's mature and become more robust and stable I doubt there will be many firmware upgrades for at least 1 year or so. But right now, the firmware updates every 3 months would keep me from having to keep hoping that the firmware update doesn't cause issues!

Overall ssd's are on the right track and I cannot wait to see the Intel 3G ssd's in spring 2011! twice the capacity for the same price...that just blows my mind!
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