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Ok guys, I have the opportunity to buy a 120GB patriot inferno, SF 1222 SSD for £136.

My question is, should I buy now, or wait until the price of SSD's come right down (I don't know how long that will be if anyone has any idea?).

The reason I'm asking, is that I bought a GTX 460 for £175 and wished I waited until the ATI 6 series as I could've got a way better deal.

But then the next nearest Sandforce drive is £175ish so for it to go lower than £136 might take a while, what do you guys think?

Cheers,

Sam

PS- I'm heading to bed now so won't reply til tomo as I've got work (yes work on xmas day lol I work in a mental health hospital) so yeh don't mean to be rude in not replying right away. Thanks again.
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post #2 of 6
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Originally Posted by PatSharp View Post
Ok guys, I have the opportunity to buy a 120GB patriot inferno, SF 1222 SSD for £136.

My question is, should I buy now, or wait until the price of SSD's come right down (I don't know how long that will be if anyone has any idea?).

The reason I'm asking, is that I bought a GTX 460 for £175 and wished I waited until the ATI 6 series as I could've got a way better deal.

But then the next nearest Sandforce drive is £175ish so for it to go lower than £136 might take a while, what do you guys think?

Cheers,

Sam

PS- I'm heading to bed now so won't reply til tomo as I've got work (yes work on xmas day lol I work in a mental health hospital) so yeh don't mean to be rude in not replying right away. Thanks again.
Hmm... just for the sake of being sure, what are the prices for the following SSDs (that is, at least for the ones you can find)?:
  1. A-DATA S599
  2. Corsair Force
  3. G.SKILL Phoenix Pro
  4. Mushkin Callisto Deluxe
  5. OCZ Vertex 2

The Vertex 2 should be the most expensive, so I say avoid it because the rest of these are basically just as good (they're basically the same drives). These drives are all superior to drives like the Patriot Inferno, the plain Mushkin Callisto (non-Deluxe), the plain G.SKILL Phoenix (non-Pro version), the OCZ Agility 2, and whatever other Sandforce drives you can find that do not have that IOPS spec of 50,000. I mean, all of the drives I listed have that Sandforce controller which provides the IOPS spec of 50,000.
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Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post
Hmm... just for the sake of being sure, what are the prices for the following SSDs (that is, at least for the ones you can find)?:
  1. A-DATA S599
  2. Corsair Force
  3. G.SKILL Phoenix Pro
  4. Mushkin Callisto Deluxe
  5. OCZ Vertex 2

The Vertex 2 should be the most expensive, so I say avoid it because the rest of these are basically just as good (they're basically the same drives). These drives are all superior to drives like the Patriot Inferno, the plain Mushkin Callisto (non-Deluxe), the plain G.SKILL Phoenix (non-Pro version), the OCZ Agility 2, and whatever other Sandforce drives you can find that do not have that IOPS spec of 50,000. I mean, all of the drives I listed have that Sandforce controller which provides the IOPS spec of 50,000.
Hey, thanks for the reply. Well I was looking and it's the same controller as the Vertex 2, corsair force, a data and g skill phoenix pro that you listed, but looking at the specs it says that the IOPS is 14k, is this bad?

The price of all those drives is roughly £175-190

EDIT: spec page LINK

EDIT2: Found a link comparing IOPS performance of SSD's LINK
Edited by PatSharp - 12/25/10 at 11:27am
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Originally Posted by PatSharp View Post
Hey, thanks for the reply. Well I was looking and it's the same controller as the Vertex 2, corsair force, a data and g skill phoenix pro that you listed, but looking at the specs it says that the IOPS is 14k, is this bad?

The price of all those drives is roughly £175-190

EDIT: spec page LINK

EDIT2: Found a link comparing IOPS performance of SSD's LINK
How expensive is £175? I mean, the difference between the drives I listed and the drives I didn't (such as the Agility 2 for example) is that the drives I listed all have the IOPS spec of 50,000. I've heard that the difference between these types of drives can be felt, but it's not huge. It's just enough to say "Hey, that's kinda cool; it feels a little bit faster!".

But, that's about where it ends. So, I think that it might be how expensive £175 is for you.
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Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post
How expensive is £175? I mean, the difference between the drives I listed and the drives I didn't (such as the Agility 2 for example) is that the drives I listed all have the IOPS spec of 50,000. I've heard that the difference between these types of drives can be felt, but it's not huge. It's just enough to say "Hey, that's kinda cool; it feels a little bit faster!".

But, that's about where it ends. So, I think that it might be how expensive £175 is for you.
Ok, well thanks a lot for your help, looked at some more benchies and bought the Patriot as the IOPS was the only thing that made a difference in any of the benchmarks. Also apparantly it's a firmware difference so if I can flash OCZ's firmware then hopefully it will perform the same as the vertex 2.

Will have to wait and see how it goes!

REP+
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Originally Posted by PatSharp View Post
Ok, well thanks a lot for your help, looked at some more benchies and bought the Patriot as the IOPS was the only thing that made a difference in any of the benchmarks. Also apparantly it's a firmware difference so if I can flash OCZ's firmware then hopefully it will perform the same as the vertex 2.

Will have to wait and see how it goes!

REP+
It's not just firmware, though. I mean, my Mushkin Callisto Deluxe started out in life as a plain Callisto (the same as the Inferno, or Agility 2, etc). Then shortly after the Callisto was released, Mushkin turned around and replaced it with the Callisto Deluxe (and they even took the original Callisto off their website at first).

So then I went to Mushkin's message board to ask what the deal was! As a result, I learned that they were providing a free service where they could take our Callistos and convert them into Callisto Deluxes. But if we wanted to have this done, then we had to send them in because a simple firmware update couldn't do the trick. There had to be some kind of physical modification that only Mushkin could do, which sounded like they were just replacing the PCB inside of the casing.

I sent mine in and then as promised, I got back a Callisto Deluxe inside of the Callisto's casing. However, they did tell me that I could flash my Callisto with the firmware for the Callisto Deluxe, but that would not have given me the 50,000 IOPS performance.
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250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (C:\) 250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (D:\) 150 GB WD VelociRaptor Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner 
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