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They are telling you the truth bud. Using auto volts when overclocking usually results in the board overvolting!
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first i want you to know king , that i really appreciated the time you spend advising me. others mostly ignore other opinions . and Achilles i know they are telling the truth lol

that link is pretty convincing BUT there is few comments i would like to make :

Quote:
Originally Posted by KingT View Post

Those guys that recommended you to OC with AUTO voltages simply don`t have necessary experience with this motherboard..

CHEERS..
this is asus guru reply


1_Ulrich wrote :

Hi idx..

PLL circuit are loopback voltage regulation operations.. they work automatically to keep voltages stable .. so leave it on Auto.. as well as all the other voltages.. The whole BIOS program works together to set workable voltages and frequencies... a configuration that is most likely to boot the system and insure stable operation. Since you got the system stable at 3.8Ghz, then no need to make any adjustments.

that sounded like a direct order to me from the manufacturer company .

http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?...Language=en-us

2_ in that article you linked i see vcore on auto for 400 fsb is 1.36 i would
like to confirm that i tested 3.8 on auto and the vcore never went
that high at all , it was 1.28v

http://img94.imageshack.us/f/capt7.png/

were dose it say 3.6????

and actually the ram voltage on cpuz hasnt changed at all .

http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/2...cture002ue.jpg

1.8v at auto not 1.9

3_ quoted from the linked article :

_there is no conclusive evidence that PLL can cause long-term harm to a CPU,
Also, it is quite possible that the BIOS will lower this setting when a 45nm chip is detected.

_there have been countless debates about the effects of VTT on the long-term health of 45nm chips .
once again, it is quite possible that the BIOS would lower the VTT to a more reasonable auto setting when it detects a 45nm chip.

i want you to know that i am not arguing with you . what you are
dealing with here is a total newbie user . that got mixed up between
experts . am like a patient in the surgery room that can hear the doctors
having total different opinion about his case . and what it hurts the most is when one of them says : well guy its your buddy and you can decide what we wanna do with it

haw can i be in a place were i can make up my mind here ? i just feel scared
either way i guess .

i know you are confident and you can keep your hardware safe .
please acknowledge that i am not handy at all . i only entered
bios a couple of times in my life. what is scaring me is not entering
the values you recommended but making mistakes unlocking the voltages
menus and apply wrong stuff .

maybe in my case i should stand my ground on auto .
Edited by prescient - 1/8/11 at 1:54pm
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that review was made with different bios than mine 2002 , the auto readings dose
not match mine with vdram or vcore at 400 fsb
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To my knowledge over-volting your motherboard will do more damage than under-volting it. And as far as kings suggestions I used very similar settings and I hit 3.8ghz with ~20-21 hrs testing, so its very stable. Now I have moved on to testing to be sure my 4.05ghz oc is fully stable for 24 hour use.

On another note, I am fairly certain that some of those "Asus Gurus" are volunteers and not company employees. At least that used to be the case a year or two ago.
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Interesting that there's so much discussion about auto voltage ... even after I put up my spread sheet which has (presumably) safe values for anas to start out with.

What is the need for argument when there's a great example? Or is 12 days of uptime at 3.9 GHz doing 24/7 at 100% load not sufficient?

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I think that everything has been said..you do what you want,and think what you want..

You can`t know real vlues of vNB,vFSB,vPLL and vRAM when OCing on AUTO settings for those as there`s no monitoring program for those on P5Q Pro..

You can only see actual Vcore in CPU-Z..

That`s why AUTO settings are not recommended for them as motherboard OVERVOLTS them even for slight OC..

This is my last post in this thread as I don`t want to waste my time any more with going around in circles..

GOOD LUCK

CHEERS..
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Quote:
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I think that everything has been said..you do what you want,and think what you want..

You can`t know real vlues of vNB,vFSB,vPLL and vRAM when OCing on AUTO settings for those as there`s no monitoring program for those on P5Q Pro..

You can only see actual Vcore in CPU-Z..

That`s why AUTO settings are not recommended for them as motherboard OVERVOLTS them even for slight OC..

This is my last post in this thread as I don`t want to waste my time any more with going around in circles..

GOOD LUCK

CHEERS..
true . i cant see the values . but the ones in that article is wrong .
the mb has put my vcore and vdram withing safe limits on auto as i showed
on screen . the article said it would when detecting the chip ,and asus
confirmed it .

i have time to talk if you are busy i thank you for the time you already gave
me to help me for free . but i am not going in circles .

you guys suggested to go on manual which i fully understand why .
i dont want to do those values manually if its ok to leave them on auto
i have been through numerous web sites including asus official forums .
some of them said its ok to leave them auto for this and others said
i should leave them .

need more links ?

http://forum.novatech.co.uk/showthre...071#post316071

http://www.overclockers.com/forums/s...highlight=id1x


and Ulrich dose work for asus btw . he is the master admin . Posts : 51257

this discussion is not about my hardware . its only 1 pc .

but about haw a newbie human being is supposed to react .
am not asking you to convince me ,because i know you are not wrong .
but i think the others are not wrong either .

if i am going to leave it auto anyway , why i am bothering you guys
or waiting for this thread to be locked ?

well am not i was only making a discussion and i respected that you
agreed to hear other people opinions .

why i chose their side ?

1_ its easier
2_ safer not to be done by me .
3_ as i believe you i believe them too so like you said my mind could
be going in circles . so i will stop posting also .. but not before
i thank all of you for the will to help me . unless you want something from
me then i will reply .

king: you get the rep points from me for the will and persistence to protect other members interests on this forums
Edited by prescient - 1/10/11 at 2:09pm
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Hi Anas,

I attached this time a PNG image of the most recent settings for my E8500 (which is in that Excel spreadsheet posted earlier). I didn't realize you weren't able to read it...

Please check this out ... I based this off of OCN member "nolonger" from when they put a baseline template in a E8xxx overclocking thread.

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Ah, upon reviewing the image, I changed from Corsaid Dominator to Kensington Value Ram. I had 2x 2G for 4G total but something changed with my CAD software in an update and suddenly it was able to use more than 2G of RAM. So I shuffled RAM around in my computers and put in 2x 4G KVR RAM, which is why the timings went to 8-8-8-24.

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sorry for late reply but u was in the Psychiatric hospital for 3 days

its ok i can read the file now but that dosnt make it much better .
i dont what all the stuff are there for .

but as u can see pll not in bios , that means its on auto anyway

and btw my cpu is sable at voltage 1.60. why not to lose all that cpu heat ?
i lost 30c of heat firing the system with that
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