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Curious, do they look brand new or refurb? Wondering as others have mentioned they're clearing out stock. Mine will be here sometime today!
They come already wrapped in the case and the clip is clipped to the case as well, but I don't see any flaws on either pair. They came with large tips I believe, but they work perfectly . I might have to retract the 'muddy' statement as well. It's my fault for putting everything on my phone at 128KBPS AAC :/. Now to put everything back on lossless .
 
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They come already wrapped in the case and the clip is clipped to the case as well, but I don't see any flaws on either pair. They came with large tips I believe, but they work perfectly . I might have to retract the 'muddy' statement as well. It's my fault for putting everything on my phone at 128KBPS AAC :/. Now to put everything back on lossless .
There's really no point of using lossless on a phone/PMP. It's not high fidelity so one can't really tell the difference between 320kbps MP3, 192kbps AAC and FLAC/lossless formats. It also wastes battery.
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There's really no point of using lossless on a phone/PMP. It's not high fidelity so one can't really tell the difference between 320kbps MP3, 192kbps AAC and FLAC/lossless formats. It also wastes battery.
Oh it's a big difference on my iPhone. I can hear big differences between 128kbps and lossless even with the Turbines. While I can't discern a difference on nearly any MP3 player between 256 and up and lossless, I don't have the time to always convert my lossless tracks to a lower bitrate each time I want a fresh set of music.

Update on the Turbines: Still a bit muddy to me, but then again, take it with a grain of salt as my headphone preferences are that of the Grado SR325i and the Etymotic ER-6i, so I'm used to 'bright' sounding headphones. The bass, though, is very unrivaled by any other IEM I've ever heard. It has bass quality as well as quantity better than that of the Triple.fi 10's and Shure SE530's. The sound stage is great as well and is also comparable to that of higher end IEMs. I'm still waiting for the high's to open up a bit. I'm hoping they do. If not, they might be sold. It's the same reason I got rid of the SE530's.
 
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Oh it's a big difference on my iPhone. I can hear big differences between 128kbps and lossless even with the Turbines. While I can't discern a difference on nearly any MP3 player between 256 and up and lossless, I don't have the time to always convert my lossless tracks to a lower bitrate each time I want a fresh set of music.

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Oh, I made a typo. I meant there's no difference in sound between high kbps MP3/AAC and lossless on phones/PMP. I can tell a difference between 128kbps MP3 and 256kbps+ MP3 even with a crappy $5 MP3 player and some cheap earphones.

The Turbines REALLY benefit with a burn-in. With up to 50 hours of pure burn-in, it sounds totally like a different IEM. I can vouch for that, I had 3 pairs of Turbines. I received my $40 Turbines from Monster last week and the mids and highs sounds recessed; ~50 hours later, it sounds like my 4 month old Turbines. Burn-in really open the mids and especially the highs.
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Oh, I made a typo. I meant there's no difference in sound between high kbps MP3/AAC and lossless on phones/PMP. I can tell a difference between 128kbps MP3 and 256kbps+ MP3 even with a crappy $5 MP3 player and some cheap earphones.

The Turbines REALLY benefit with a burn-in. With up to 50 hours of pure burn-in, it sounds totally like a different IEM. I can vouch for that, I had 3 pairs of Turbines. I received my $40 Turbines from Monster last week and the mids and highs sounds recessed; ~50 hours later, it sounds like my 4 month old Turbines. Burn-in really open the mids and especially the highs.
I may have to let them sit for a few days then, though I've woken up this morning craving the sound from them. I have to admit the detail and bass given from them is pretty amazing, and makes these IEMs worth even their $180 retail tag. I'd say worth more if it does indeed open up like you say!
 
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The eartips are too large, and my Shure Olives and Phonak PFE eartips don't fit. Any alternatives for smaller tips for the Turbines?

I don't think they sell them on the Monster site.
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The eartips are too large, and my Shure Olives and Phonak PFE eartips don't fit. Any alternatives for smaller tips for the Turbines?

I don't think they sell them on the Monster site.
I would actually say buy a really cheap $10 pair of IEM's from Walmart, Kmart, Target, etc. and see if you can find a set. If not, I would actually email Monster and see if they'll send you a fit kit for a little bit of money .

EDIT: I found this on a spur of randomness while looking on the websites store sections: http://www.monstersupertips.com/overview.asp
Edited by pez - 1/5/11 at 8:36pm
 
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I would actually say buy a really cheap $10 pair of IEM's from Walmart, Kmart, Target, etc. and see if you can find a set. If not, I would actually email Monster and see if they'll send you a fit kit for a little bit of money .

EDIT: I found this on a spur of randomness while looking on the websites store sections: http://www.monstersupertips.com/overview.asp
I cringe at $40 for 6 pairs of tips.

The Phonak PFE silicone tips fit decently. I found the Monster Turbines to have very thin tips (flange part) compared to my slightly thicker PFE tips. Also, the actual Turbine IEM is quite heavy thanks to the metal housing

If anyone else is having trouble, the cheapest alternatives I could find were:




The Sony tips have a review specifically mentioning that they fit on Turbines.
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I cringe at $40 for 6 pairs of tips.

The Phonak PFE silicone tips fit decently. I found the Monster Turbines to have very thin tips (flange part) compared to my slightly thicker PFE tips. Also, the actual Turbine IEM is quite heavy thanks to the metal housing

If anyone else is having trouble, the cheapest alternatives I could find were:

Amazon.com: Sony EPEX10A/BLK Hybrid Replacement Earbuds (Black): Electronics

Amazon.com: Monster Gel and Foam SuperTip Sampler Starter Kit: Electronics


The Sony tips have a review specifically mentioning that they fit on Turbines.
Yeah, I do as well. I think I got lucky by having tips that fit me for the Turbine, but I think they actually be too big...I'm sure it's one of the reasons it seems muddy. I can tell when I have just the right seal the treble seems to improve a bit. Hopefully they fit fine for my girlfriend or else I'll be buying some tips for her. And you're right, the first thing I noticed about the Turbine's were their heavy metal housing.
 
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Yeah, I do as well. I think I got lucky by having tips that fit me for the Turbine, but I think they actually be too big...I'm sure it's one of the reasons it seems muddy. I can tell when I have just the right seal the treble seems to improve a bit. Hopefully they fit fine for my girlfriend or else I'll be buying some tips for her. And you're right, the first thing I noticed about the Turbine's were their heavy metal housing.
Best tips for the turbines are the Comply T400
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