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Reviewers will be getting test samples in late feb/early march so 3 weeks to a month after that roughly if everything goes to plan.

8 Core - Zambezi
16 Core - Interlagos (only on the G34 server platform is planned so far but will be replaced with a new socket for the 20core bulldozer)

Performance wise well hard to get into specifies the 8core is faster (i'll use that word loosely) than all current PHII and Core i7 products on the market.

I would say in percentage maybe a 40% jump from the Thuban based products.

Sorry if i'm a bit vague.

On a personal note this will be my next upgrade.
all good so what im gathering is that zambezi is the phenom line? and if it 40% or close to it ill be very happy
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When it comes out ima hop on them 955's baby WOOHOO

..given that they drop in price....
I don't think that'll really be worth it, unless you can get one on sale for close to the price of your Callisto.
Ain't you thought about trying for an unlock?

Meh, I'll be getting BD, probably when the second batch is released, by then we'll know more about it, not just from reviews, but users and their various rigs and testings.

If it's architectural differences put it with the i5's on a clock for clock/ core for core basis, I'll be very happy.

Either way, I'll probably skip Thuban's, for me it ain't worth it from a full Deneb.
 
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God no. The 8 Core AMD CPU will appear as 8 cores, 8 threads. Simple as that. Each core is made of 2 modules. Period. Also, Bulldozer will be coming in April.

EDIT: To xd_1771, I quoted you by accident, but Firefox is crashing whenever I try to Delete, Right>Click Delete, backspace or ctrl+x in the post editor.
I thought I read somewhere that an 8-core bulldozer will have 16 threads. Oh well thats still almost a 16-core CPu so whatever . I'll be putting off my i7 950 upgrade to wait for Bulldozer. Hope it's worth it!
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I don't think that'll really be worth it, unless you can get one on sale for close to the price of your Callisto.
Ain't you thought about trying for an unlock?

Meh, I'll be getting BD, probably when the second batch is released, by then we'll know more about it, not just from reviews, but users and their various rigs and testings.

If it's architectural differences put it with the i5's on a clock for clock/ core for core basis, I'll be very happy.

Either way, I'll probably skip Thuban's, for me it ain't worth it from a full Deneb.
Mine does unlock but I just hate the idea of not being able to directly sensor my temps =\\ besides I'm gonna make another build hehe

Bulldozer....idk I mean if the 955 drops to even $100. That's all I'll be needing for awhile honestly.
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This is a repost I made in the SB vs BD thread.

It's been confirmed that 16 core BullDozer server will have 33% better ipc than 12 core Magny Cours within the same tdp. That alone is a 12.5% improvement in ipc per core.
So take a theoretical 8 core Phenom II and add 12.5% as a baseline across all task and this will easily put Zambezi(8core desktop) ahead of Sandy Bridge (4c/8t) in the majority/all multi-threaded task and give a 6c/12t SB variant a tough time in the very least.

The other thing is that it appears that by way of BD's arch. it's geared high for clocks with mention of all cores getting a 500mhz turbo boost even in task that are utilizing all the cores but only as long as the cpu stays within it's tdp and this is for server's imagine desktop

Another thing to consider is with such an aggressive turbo in server on all cores one can only guess what BD turbo will be doing in task requiring only a few cores. This will help further extend the 12.5% ipc per core improvement in low thread situations

As for Ivy Bridge it's even further down the road than Bulldozer by are limited info and on top of that awaiting a new 22nm process and I find it a stretch we will see 22nm in 2011.
Besides that, 32nm SB is slotted for the up coming server/enthusiast markets(1365/2011 which ever socket they decide) and we don't even have main stream SB(1155) yet. 17 days?

BD should do well against SB in all markets, better than PhenomII's have done against i7's.

Personally I'll be going with Bulldozer next year as SB with it's locked blck's kill's it for me with Intel and Im not about to fork over 300+ for a boring noob multiplier only chip.
Where's the fun in that
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If Bulldozer has comparable core for core performance to current Nehalem/Clarksdale CPUs, less restrictive OCing than Sandy Bridge, and lower price than Ivy Bridge, I will most likely get a Bulldozer setup shortly after launch.

Intel has set a pretty high bar and I'm excited to see if AMD can match or beat them this gen.
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Well... Considering I'm going SB in a couple of weeks, I'd say, the only way I'd go the Bulldozer route upon release is if it's performance is significantly superior to SB. I'm thinking ~10% per clock performance improvement.
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He's trolling and doesnt seem to remember the pre-C2D years of Intel.
Exactly maricon !! did you get any Pentium model "no matter what" in that era?!?! BD needs to be AT LEAST 35% faster than phenom in order to compete with SB and its variants.. pajuo
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Of COURSE you have.

I'll likely build next winter, Ivy Bridge or Bulldozer. Just have to wait and see who's on top when the time comes.

Andos/SlaveonDope: I think he's trying to say why would you insist on buying Bulldozer "no matter what." You'd have to be a fanboy, for instance, to buy it if performance was dismal/no better than Phenom II.
Exactly what i meant to say.. amazing that someone understand without getting all EMO about it

+1 to you sir !!
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