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Hey everyone, Merry Christmas!

So I just upgraded from a PNY 9800 GX2 (which gave me nothing but problems with overheating) to MSI's GTX460 Hawk Talon Attack.

I consider myself pretty tech savy but when it comes to wiring and power requirements I don't know what I'm doing. I know, pretty bad. I'm learning as I go though!

Anywho I wanted to make sure I have my card hooked up correctly and safely. I am using this power supply with these power stats:
http://www.ocia.net/fullsize.php?filename=143_8.jpg

The card came with two 2x molex to 6-pin PCI-e adapters. Not having the cords available to connect all four to free molex connections I used a 6-pin PCI-e to 6-pin PCI-e and one 2x molex to 6-pin PCI-e adapters (or converter, whichever they are called). To my understanding when using a 2x molex to 6-pin PCI-e adapter you cannot have them running off say a "Y" splitter for example. So each molex must connect to separate power sources. So..........what I did was I purchased two molex Y splitters (all they had, no female to female molex cables) and pluged each into the PSU and split the 2x molex to PCI-e adapters going to each of them (so they don't share the same cable, thats the important part right?).

Where I'm getting is this the correct way to power the gtx460, or is it better to have just two 6-pin PCI-e to 6-pin PCI-e cables going from the PSU directly to the GPU?

Thanks,
John

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The 2 6-pin PCI-e cables are the way to go. The molex adapters are there for people with psus that have only one or no 6-pin PCI-e cables
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No doubt. My PSU is modular and I can just use 2 of the 6 pin connectors but I don't have all the cables with me (moved, in another state....). So I only have the one 6 pin pcie to 6 pin pcie.

I'm just looking for confirmation that I have the 2x molex to 6 pin pcie connected correctly and also that using one with my '6 pin pcie to 6 pin pcie" to power my GPU is adequately providing power to it.
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Originally Posted by fullofclovers;11773647 
Where I'm getting is this the correct way to power the gtx460, or is it better to have just two 6-pin PCI-e to 6-pin PCI-e cables going from the PSU directly to the GPU?

yes, THAT is the default, prefered, and best way to power your GPU.

also a picture of what you did would be helpful
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fullofclovers;11773854 
No doubt. My PSU is modular and I can just use 2 of the 6 pin connectors but I don't have all the cables with me (moved, in another state....). So I only have the one 6 pin pcie to 6 pin pcie.

I'm just looking for confirmation that I have the 2x molex to 6 pin pcie connected correctly and also that using one with my '6 pin pcie to 6 pin pcie" to power my GPU is adequately providing power to it.

ok, yea maybe a picture would be best as I dont quite follow what you did.

Are you saying you have a molex coming from your power supply, then you put a splitter on that, then you plugged the 2x molex>pci-e adapter into it? This doesnt sound correct, I dont think you should be using a splitter
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Essentially I'm using a "6pin to 6 pin pci-e cable" and this converter to power the GPU.

6 pin to 6 pin pcie example:
tp750w_2pcie.jpg

A picture is worth a thousand words:
molextopcie.jpg

The "Y" cable you see isn't connected to anything other than the PSU. NOTHING else is powered on that cable line. I had to use this cable for the second molex because I wasn't able to find just a straight molex connection like I have on the left of the image (black cable).

I hope this clears things up.

Thanks.
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I don't think using the adapter on a single rail PSU matters. You know which rail the power is being drawn from(as there is only one, and the GPU only draws from +12v)

I've never heard of people having issues using the adapter unless it was just cheap, or their PSU was crap. I wouldn't worry about it. people get over cautious when talking about power and which plugs to use on these types of forums because it's what they believe.
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If it's not obvious already, I know nothing about how to read PSU's. By Rail you mean a individual connection on the PSU? And each one runs at different specs correct?

So this is label on my PSU:
http://www.ocia.net/fullsize.php?filename=143_8.jpg

Each number corresponds to the connection on the unit?

Thanks for the help so far.
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