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post #11 of 21
Well first I need to know what settings is your Vcore at right now, if it is stock I would change it to 1.325V test it and if it is not stable bump it to 1.35V and I personally wouldn't want to go higher than that because the max rated voltage is 1.4V for your processor and after that if it is at 1.35V and not stable bump the VDDNB in .025 incrimments (ie. 2.4V to 2.425V) I don't remember the exact limit for the VDDNB max voltage settings but you should be able to tell from the BIOS because the numbers turn yellow if your starting to get near the max and if you see red numbers you have gone to far in my opinion. (Thats just me I like to keep on the safe side, but you can go over the max rated voltage as long as your cooling is good enough I just don't prefer to).

For the other settings I couldn't say I haven't really messed with them at all since I really don't mess around trying to OC my motherboard.

But if your OC is running stable where it is the only thing I suggest changing is your VCore and test that at 1.325 then 1.35 (That is if it is set to auto now) because auto settings are just bad because you will usually run at higher voltages for no reason. (Ie. at auto running at 3.6 Ghz voltage was reading 1.45V at 100% CPU usage and I set it to 1.35V and it still ran fine).

** I also just remembered that since you don't have a unlocked multiplier so you may want to check out http://www.overclock.net/overclock.p...king-guide.htm
because I have been running black edition processors for so long I don't remember all the details in OC'ing a non-Black Edition processor because bumping your FSB OCs more than just your CPU and you end up having to do a lot of fine tuning.

EDIT: Also don't forget to test your OC with Prime95 and Memtest for a couple of hours after OC'ing to check stability of RAM and CPU.
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The vid was 1.35 and the mobo ran it @ 1.32 with auto. I raised it to 1.35 and then 1.38 to get 3.6GHz stable so I thought.

But I'm trying 3.75GHz (250reference) and I'm at 1.46core and 1.35VDDNB and it's still dying in p95. The thing that worries me is that at this setting the voltage jumps around from 1.44 to 1.5 in p95. Also, my HT is @2200; should I lower this?

Also, CPUIDHWmonitor and coretemp both report really low idle temps of around 19C while the BIOS reports up to 40C. Is there something wrong with my chip?
     
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Really? So even setting it down to the 400 base will not help me? I set it to that with the 4GHz attempt and the BIOS stats that it's running @1068 or so. That's well below it's rated speed.

If it is my RAM are you saying that a pair of 1600s would do better? Now I'm going to check and see about returns. -_-
Yes. You will have a better chance of hit 4.0ghz.

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The vid was 1.35 and the mobo ran it @ 1.32 with auto. I raised it to 1.35 and then 1.38 to get 3.6GHz stable so I thought.

But I'm trying 3.75GHz (250reference) and I'm at 1.46core and 1.35VDDNB and it's still dying in p95. The thing that worries me is that at this setting the voltage jumps around from 1.44 to 1.5 in p95. Also, my HT is @2200; should I lower this?

Also, CPUIDHWmonitor and coretemp both report really low idle temps of around 19C while the BIOS reports up to 40C. Is there something wrong with my chip?
Ok. Here the breakdown on that you need to know for ocing any athlon II and phenom II cpu on air.
1) Max cpu voltage is 1.55v.
2) Keep temp under 55c.
3) NB frequency take it as high as you can take it and stable.
4) CPU/NB voltage max 1.45v. This the voltage for NB Frequency.
5) Keep HT around 2000.
6) Keep memory close or under to stock speed.
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Sounds like you are hitting a wall anything after 3.6 Ghz while yes you can continue I personally wouldn't because 1V over the max rated voltage isn't something I think you should be doing especially if that PC is for personal use and not just for testing OCs.

While yes other people will say running over the recommended voltage is fine as long as you have your cooling in order 1 volt over is just to much you will end up frying your CPU or shorting its life by a lot.

You may be looking at the wrong things when trying to read the CPUs temperature because I believe your BIOs is reading the correct temperature and that 40C is the temperature that your CPU core is reading which is the chip as a whole.

And you should be fine as long as your CPU doesn't reach 65C because that is around the point where an auto shutdown will occur.

Download speedfan at http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php and read the core temperature after Prime95 is running for about 10-15 minutes and the temperature should be somewhat accurate to what it will run at after extendend use give or take 3-4C.

Also I post what CPU voltage you are running at while Prime95 is running.
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Alright. Gonna try lowering the HT again so that it's below 2000 this time. I've locked the NB to a 10x the reference clock so 2.5GHz right now. I'm going to raise to 1.5 core if necessary and possibly raise the VDDNB if all else fails (1.35 is the most I want to put in it now). I've locked the RAM into the stock speeds but had to set the timings myself so they would match the manufacturer settings.

I'll report back after I give this a try. You guys helped a lot.
     
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LOL, I'm going to kill myself if it has just been the HT Link that was ruining my OCing this whole time. I got through 8-10 runs of p95 and the core temps for each core didn't make it past 40C. The system temp report in HWmonitor though made it to 52C. Which one should I be more concerned with? The individual coretemps or the systemtemp report for the entire CPU package?

So I'm currently:
(250x15)=3.75GHz @ 1.46 core
(250x10)=2.5GHz NB @ 1.35VDDNB
(1600)=2000HT @ Auto

Still having a strange mouse lag issue though.
     
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I had that exact board and I could not hit 4 ghz with my phenom 945 it has tons of voltage fluctuation. It would overheat under load and drop the oc at 3.8ghz. I ended up upgrading to my current board.

I got some enzotech mossfet coolers from newegg which helped but in the end its a bad oc board.

I usually ran with llc at 8% and that helped the voltage fluctuation a bit.
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So LLC is something good? Like capable of stopping the voltage fluctuations? I will investigate this. Might help me a bit.
     
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most cases no but that board it helped. I was at 1.425v with 8% llc at 3.8ghz on my phenom
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Aight, I'll look into it.
     
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AthlonIIX4 640 3.62GHz (250x14.5) 2.5GHz NB Asus M4A785TD-M EVO MSI GTX275 (Stock 666) 8GBs of GSkill 1600 
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4GBs of Adata 1333 Kingston HyperX 3k 120GB WD Caviar Black 500GB Hitachi Deskstar 1TB 
Optical DriveCoolingOSOS
LG 8X BDR (WHL08S20) Cooler Master Hyper 212+ Kubuntu x64 Windows 7 x64 
OSMonitorPowerCase
Bodhi Linux x64 Acer G215H (1920x1080) Seasonic 520 HAF912 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
N450 1.8GHz AC and 1.66GHz batt ASUS proprietary for 1001P GMA3150 (can play bluray now!?) 1GB DDR2 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSOS
160GB LGLHDLBDRE32X Bodhi Linux Fedora LXDE 
OSOSMonitorKeyboard
Kubuntu SLAX 1280x600 + Dell 15inch Excellent! 
PowerCase
6 cells=6-12hrs and a charger 1001P MU17 Black 
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