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its dirt cheap and i need this rig, I killed my m4a89td and i decided i wont get a new board, i will just sell the chip and go with i7, really wanted to try i7 and from everything i have read when it comes to gaming go with intel, but if your going to be encoding and rendering thuban x6 is best bet. The thuban does not perform clock for compared to other chips. For example, tf2 is memory and cpu intensive, i used to get 120fps constant in tf2 on a x4 965 BE with 1200mhz ddr2 cas5 ram nb at 3.2ghz, i then upgraded to 890chipset and thuban x6 1055t, achieved same clocks but ram was running at 1700mhz cas7 and my min fps would be about 90 with the same settings and GFXs cards 2x5850, i dont know what this proves, but at that same time, friends on steam with i7s who play tf2 would be running same setups, e.g crossfire 5850s and a oc of 4ghz but had his ram at cas7 1900mhz in triple channel mode, would be getting a constant 120fps with the same settings, now intel are not beating about the bush when they say i7 is optimized for memory intensive applications lols

I cant afford to fork out 300 or so for a new mobo, Second hand is the only way to go, hopefully would be able to achieve 4.4-5 on phase
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X58A-UD5 id take it over the formula, deffinitly over the R2E

Actually gigabyte has better build quality than ASUS, GB actually makes their boards, don't post unless you know what you are talking about.
i do know what im talking about and after all the years i built computers for peope only one asus board has gone defective and asus fixed it and returned it 4 days but gigbabyte boards fail so much sound dies on them, sata controller was a new on the other day, but the best one i have ever had was when i client told me their comp got extremely hot and it had a black scold mark on the northbridge because it was too loose and wasnt cooling it as much as is should of been
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i do know what im talking about and after all the years i built computers for peope only one asus board has gone defective and asus fixed it and returned it 4 days but gigbabyte boards fail so much sound dies on them, sata controller was a new on the other day, but the best one i have ever had was when i client told me their comp got extremely hot and it had a black scold mark on the northbridge because it was too loose and wasnt cooling it as much as is should of been
The vast majority of socket 775 boards on this site are gigabyte. More people have experience with the EP45-UD3* (Where *P,L, ect) than you would believe with little or no problems and great experiences with RMA when needed. Gigabyte doesn't make bad boards and honestly I would trust them. The brands I stay away from are MSI (there are several accounts with pictures of boards that literally caught fire) and OCZ (they keep sending out bad ram sets and their RMA dept is atrocious).

Most people on OCN will disagree with you, because the majority of us have built gigabyte based computers and had zero problems.
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i do know what im talking about and after all the years i built computers for peope only one asus board has gone defective and asus fixed it and returned it 4 days but gigbabyte boards fail so much sound dies on them, sata controller was a new on the other day, but the best one i have ever had was when i client told me their comp got extremely hot and it had a black scold mark on the northbridge because it was too loose and wasnt cooling it as much as is should of been
I wudl have agreed wtih you in the past, but in the past year gigabytes quality has increased way above ASUS's.
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I wudl have agreed wtih you in the past, but in the past year gigabytes quality has increased way above ASUS's.
I must disagree on this, you pay for what you get, i have owned 2 boards for this 1055t one was the ga-890ud3h the other was the m4a89td both were the same price, but for some reason the asus had less problems then gigabyte and i could achieve a higher NB clock and ram clock compared to the gigabyte, The gigabyte died on me, maybe cause of the 1.625v i was putting through it and the VRMs could not take it, the m4a89td died cause i did something very stupid and killed it lol, im always trying to improve my oc, even if its at its max, it must be some sort of disease lol. I push my components to the limit, go hard or go home, and every gigabyte board i have owned has died on me cause of the abuse i put it through, but i have never bought a top notch high quality gigabyte board so i cant comment on them, but i have read good and bad.

If you want to overclock with gigabyte then you would need to purchase the top rated board which was designed for overclockers, all the other mediocre boards are not designed to be pushed to the extreme and something would give, either the NB, VRM's or some other mobo component.

Between the 2 companies, Asus just make better performing OC boards designed to be pushed to the limits and take those high voltages, but one must sell a kidney first to purchase one of these boards lol.
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ok well i bought a P6X58D-premium it wouldn't do 215blck stable, I bought a R3E it would get to 220blck i think it was my chip, 4.5ghz with 215blck required everything the board had to offer including qpi/vtt jumper, my processor wasn't going higher.

I returned it got a X58A-UD5, required less voltage to do 4.5ghz, did 215blck stable, and max blck went to 224. you can read my review. The UD5 didn't have the gimmicks, but I found the voltage read points for the board, easy tune in windows was dead on for every voltage.

The boards voltages were extremely stable, high OC was no hard task at all.

yes the board didn't have a built in SSD, didn't have dedicated voltage read points, didn't have stupid gimmicks. but it performed, and it is better built than both ASUS boards.

Gigabyte makes their own board, their quality control is second to none, ASUS outsources to ECS and Foxconn, i hope they make their own ROG boards though.

Now lets move to LGA1155, ASUS cannot get their Digi+ gimmick to pass VRD12 requirements, Intel wont certify their VRM system, that is why you do not see reviews, and you haven't heard much of anything.

What I have seen my Gigabyte board has all the BIOS features the R3E has with 4 settings for LLC, Lean Mode, LN2 Mode, Extra voltage modes, from the GOOC BIOS.

yea you do pay for it though $280 for a board that is middle in their range is a lot, considering you can get a R3F for the same amount.

you are probably spending like 100 bucks on boards, when it gets into the 300 dollar range you begin to see real quality.

i was so pissed at ASUS after i bought my UD5 that I wrote a very indepth review on it, Gigabyte contacted me and sent my their new LGA 1155 Top Dog, this board is amazing.
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ok well i bought a P6X58D-premium it wouldn't do 215blck stable, I bought a R3E it would get to 220blck i think it was my chip, 4.5ghz with 215blck required everything the board had to offer including qpi/vtt jumper, my processor wasn't going higher.

I returned it got a X58A-UD5, required less voltage to do 4.5ghz, did 215blck stable, and max blck went to 224. you can read my review. The UD5 didn't have the gimmicks, but I found the voltage read points for the board, easy tune in windows was dead on for every voltage.

The boards voltages were extremely stable, high OC was no hard task at all.

yes the board didn't have a built in SSD, didn't have dedicated voltage read points, didn't have stupid gimmicks. but it performed, and it is better built than both ASUS boards.

Gigabyte makes their own board, their quality control is second to none, ASUS outsources to ECS and Foxconn, i hope they make their own ROG boards though.

Now lets move to LGA1155, ASUS cannot get their Digi+ gimmick to pass VRD12 requirements, Intel wont certify their VRM system, that is why you do not see reviews, and you haven't heard much of anything.

What I have seen my Gigabyte board has all the BIOS features the R3E has with 4 settings for LLC, Lean Mode, LN2 Mode, Extra voltage modes, from the GOOC BIOS.

yea you do pay for it though $280 for a board that is middle in their range is a lot, considering you can get a R3F for the same amount.

you are probably spending like 100 bucks on boards, when it gets into the 300 dollar range you begin to see real quality.

i was so pissed at ASUS after i bought my UD5 that I wrote a very indepth review on it, Gigabyte contacted me and sent my their new LGA 1155 Top Dog, this board is amazing.
I actually read that review and i must say, effort well done mate.

At this moment i will choose the asus, and i will see how i go from there, I can fork out a extra 30 dollars and get the ud5, i was even thinking of it, but im going to setting up phase and the cpu area looked ****** cluttered and that would really effect how im going to stop condensation, and i have killed to much hard ware and right now i cant afford for another thing to die, so the main reason was the extra space around the cpu area.

Is there anyone who has experience with the Ud5 and phase? was it easy to art eraser around the cpu socket?

Thankyou everyone for your input.
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i have taken it under DICe, and itsmuch harder to insulate for than phase, becuase phase isn't that cold if you only have an SS. you need to use di-electric grease, neoproen ring around the CPU socket area, air tight seal, you can use kneading eraser too. it isn't that hard, di-electric grease does most of hte job for you.
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