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So you would rather have JUST your cpu's clocks faster rather then your whole system? Sounds like you're the idiot to me. rolleyes.gif Because thats what you get when you overclock using a multiplier. rolleyes.gif

lachen.gif can you please explain to me how this is true?

Are you talking about QPI? Nope that can be adjusted by a multiplier.

Are you talking about your RAM frequency? Nope that is adjusted by a multiplier!

What about UCLK? Damn I guess that multiplier can be changed too.

I don't know what your point is, that can all be adjusted WITHOUT raising the BCLK. Even if those settings couldn't be adjusted, you wouldn't notice it at all! Your graphics card isn't affected by BCLK, your hard drive isn't affected by BCLK, and your RAM frequency has almost no real life performance gain. Tighter timings are about the only performance difference you will see out of RAM past 1333MHz.

So I guess you're wrong two times over!
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You alluded too overclocking the Bclk making the uncore run faster. What makes you think sandy bridge won't have multipliers to push the uncore higher?

I can't find the review right now but I read that you can only push the uncore a couple of mhz without messing up all the other frequencies on the chip.

Anyway, like I said this is besides the point. I think we should really stop taking over this thread by having a flame war over SB.
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I can't find the review right now but I read that you can only push the uncore a couple of mhz without messing up all the other frequencies on the chip.

Anyway, like I said this is besides the point. I think we should really stop taking over this thread by having a flame war over SB.

There's no flame war going on. Just a discussion. Problem is were just guessing on what can and can't happen with sandy bridge.

I've read the UD7 manual about 4 times already and i REALLY want to play with Bclk/DMI control in the bios
    
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Originally Posted by Airolden;11784555 
lachen.gif can you please explain to me how this is true?

Are you talking about QPI? Nope that can be adjusted by a multiplier.

Are you talking about your RAM frequency? Nope that is adjusted by a multiplier!

What about UCLK? Damn I guess that multiplier can be changed too.

I don't know what your point is, that can all be adjusted WITHOUT raising the BCLK. Even if those settings couldn't be adjusted, you wouldn't notice it at all! Your graphics card isn't affected by BCLK, your hard drive isn't affected by BCLK, and your RAM frequency has almost no real life performance gain. Tighter timings are about the only performance difference you will see out of RAM past 1333MHz.

So I guess you're wrong two times over!

I have no problem admitting I'm wrong, thats how I learn more. Apparently here I am wrong, oh well its happened before and it will happen again. You trying to get me mad and troll me though is not going to work. My opinion on Sandy Bridge still stands (at least as far as LGA 1155 goes), and I think the OP should wait to see what LGA 2011 brings to the table along with bulldozer.
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Originally Posted by Jean-Luc;11784638 
There's no flame war going on. Just a discussion. Problem is were just guessing on what can and can't happen with sandy bridge.

I've read the UD7 manual about 4 times already and i REALLY want to play with Bclk/DMI control in the bios

Oh really, well Airolden seems to think otherwise. Yeah, I hear ya, I hate discussing new hardware before it is released because speculation always gets in the way. From what I've seen Sandy Bridge does not seem worth it to me, obviously other people will think differently.
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so much reading i still dont understand You guys know am already selling sandy bridge but they are too expensive for my desire... i got the 2400 for CA$214.95 plus tax is this going to be better than the e8400 i repeat I WONT OC I DONT HAVE TIME. What about the damn mobo for 1155 going to be better than the 775? or 776 o dunno whats my current socket lol.

P.S i dont understand anything you guys are talking about as iam not into ocing. So main point is Will i see improvement if i upgrade sand bridge 2400 soket 1155 and or should i upgrade to one of those q9950? what should I do I wana change my system i dont want it. But in same time there better be huge difference. I did not overclock e8400 and i wont overclock anything else.

Edit: What lga release in 2011 are you talking about? explain please.
Edited by kitt3 - 12/26/10 at 8:04pm
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The new i5 will eat it for breakfast.An incredible cpu boost.

Yes there will be a huge difference........in benchmarks,and other cpu intensive tasks.
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You might want to state what youre using the comp for. So people can judge if you should upgrade or keep your current system
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nothing blu ray movies hd movies and games like quake wars css. Also dose i5 2400 come with ht? and which previouse cpus had ht i know I7 but there are so many names for I7 cpus:P.
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nothing blu ray movies hd movies and games like quake wars css. Also dose i5 2400 come with ht? and which previouse cpus had ht i know I7 but there are so many names for I7 cpus:P.

For what I have read no the i5 2400 does not have HT. All the nehalem i7's have HT. (this includes the bloomfield and lynnfield chips) You won't really need an i7 for the purposes you just posted. Games hardly use more then 2 threads (some use 4 but the i5's have 4 cores so you'll be good there), and the lynnfield i5's kick ass for gaming. If I were you I would wait to see what Sandy Bridge has to offer, if it doesn't improve gaming that much just grab the i5 2400 (as long as it is the same price as the i5 760).
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nothing blu ray movies hd movies and games like quake wars css. Also dose i5 2400 come with ht? and which previouse cpus had ht i know I7 but there are so many names for I7 cpus:P.

All i7s come with HT. That is pretty much what separates i7s from i5s. All i7s, all i3s, and the dual core i5s have HT. Only quad core i5s do not have HT.
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