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Well I am looking for a new cooler. My current one worked excellently for my C2Q, but the i7 produces too much heat for my heat sink to handle.

So I want to know what my absolute best choices are as far as air CPU cooling. I am aware that this sort of thing has been posted before but no previous threads have sufficiently answered my many questions. Please read this entire post before replying.

I am aware the current best air cooler is the Noctua NH-D14. Just how much better is the Noctua NH-D14 at COOLING compared to say a $60 alternative? I am stressing the word cooling because I frankly could care less that it is virtually silent. Noise within reason is fine for me (under 40dB). Also, should I decide to purchase the Noctua, how are the included fans? What would be the absolute best fan configuration (under 40dB fans, don't care how many) for the Noctua, and just how much of a cooling performance boost would I get from these fans vs. stock fans?

Also, is there a better cooling performance option available? Again, please consider I weigh temperatures very much over noise. Noise is not a big concern. I am also not interested in anything other than air cooling, other than maybe the H70.

Finally, what kind of temperatures can I expect out of whatever cooler you think best?

I understand these are a lot of questions, though I don't feel like I can make an educated buying decision without them being answered.

Thank you in advance and +rep will be shared.
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post #2 of 23
Well, if you don't care about noise, get some Delta fans
http://www.frozencpu.com/brands/brand/b113/Delta.html

As for air coolers, the Coolermaster Hyper 212+ is a great one, especially for the price. Otherwise, look into some Prolimitech Megahalems.

Noctua fans are built for silent operation. They're cooling is average. The coolers I listed above are superior to the Noctua.
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Well, if you don't care about noise, get some Delta fans
http://www.frozencpu.com/brands/brand/b113/Delta.html

As for air coolers, the Coolermaster Hyper 212+ is a great one, especially for the price. Otherwise, look into some Prolimitech Megahalems.

Noctua fans are built for silent operation. They're cooling is average. The coolers I listed above are superior to the Noctua.
Yea Deltas and Vantechs are just a little too loud for me. I prefer to keep it under 40 dB as I don't use a headset and I don't like when I hear my fan over my music / games.
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What sort of temps are you getting with that Zerotherm with the Core i7? Personally, I have no problem with the stock fans that come with the NH-D14. They're relatively quiet while providing good airflow. If you want cheaper then something like Scythe Mugen 2 or even CM Hyper 212+ (they're in the $30 - $40 range).

Or better yet, find a used Megahalems in the Marketplace section. It's one of my personal, all-time best coolers out there.
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Quote:
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Well, if you don't care about noise, get some Delta fans
http://www.frozencpu.com/brands/brand/b113/Delta.html

As for air coolers, the Coolermaster Hyper 212+ is a great one, especially for the price. Otherwise, look into some Prolimitech Megahalems.

Noctua fans are built for silent operation. They're cooling is average. The coolers I listed above are superior to the Noctua.
yes, go with the hyper 212. great cooler and everyone who has it loves it.
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What sort of temps are you getting with that Zerotherm with the Core i7? Personally, I have no problem with the stock fans that come with the NH-D14. They're relatively quiet while providing good airflow. If you want cheaper then something like Scythe Mugen 2 or even CM Hyper 212+ (they're in the $30 - $40 range).

Or better yet, find a used Megahalems in the Marketplace section. It's one of my personal, all-time best coolers out there.
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yes, go with the hyper 212. great cooler and everyone who has it loves it.
Well the thing is, I am not looking for a low budget cooler. I am willing to spend $100 on a cooler, I just want to be sure that I will get $100 worth of cooling out of it. Right now my cooler will peak at around 85* C at full load. I'd like temperatures low enough so that I can comfortably raise the voltage up to 1.375 (Intel's max recommended vcore) and still have a reasonable temperature.

I feel like there are more powerful cooling solutions out there than a Hyper 212+. I understand everyone loves it but I am not on an extremely tight budget. Under $100 would be nice, but if a $60 Megahalems cools within 2 or 3 degrees of the Noctua just a little bit louder, then for my personal taste I see no reason to throw away the extra $30.

Space is also not an issue. My Phantom has plenty of space.
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Scythe Mugen II, or I believe the SCMG-2100 now, is one of the best air coolers on the market. I fold 24/7 with one on my secondary rig, 4GHz i7, and I've never seen it get above 65C. It's really a great cooler, especially for the money.
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Scythe Mugen II, or I believe the SCMG-2100 now, is one of the best air coolers on the market. I fold 24/7 with one on my secondary rig, 4GHz i7, and I've never seen it get above 65C. It's really a great cooler, especially for the money.
Hmm I'll consider it, but how much will the Noctua out perform it? if at all?
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It's hard to say. The only review I found contradicts my personal findings by a significant amount. I suppose it really depends on your case, ambient temps and how well you mount it. Legit Reviews says there's a 10C difference at 3.5GHz, and that the Mugen is loading at 72C. There must be something different in regards to their system compared to mine, as previously stated, I run 4@~65C. Either way, though, you won't be disappointed.
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It's hard to say. The only review I found contradicts my personal findings by a significant amount. I suppose it really depends on your case, ambient temps and how well you mount it. Legit Reviews says there's a 10C difference at 3.5GHz, and that the Mugen is loading at 72C. There must be something different in regards to their system compared to mine, as previously stated, I run 4@~65C. Either way, though, you won't be disappointed.
Yes that is something I have noticed that has annoyed me greatly with heat sink reviews, which is probably why I made a thread here. All reviews seem to have different temperature ranges, and I know for a fact many of my own personal coolers have outperformed their "reviewed" performance.

That is why I prefer personal experiences over reviews for cooling. There are far too many different reviews that often contradict each other.

Is there anyone out there owning the NH-D14 that'd like to share their personal temperatures with it?
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